any tips for possible fight......
Original Poster: easycheese15
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 19-10-2007, 11:41

Orginal Post: easycheese15: For a while now there has been this guy giving me lots of crap about how he wants to kick my ass and stuff like that. Every time now I have been simply avoiding the guy but pretty soon I think it might be time to lay down the fist. Just wondering if you guys have tips for this guy who apparently is known for just all out punching and doing crazy stuff like headbutting and kicking people in the legs. Any thing else you guys want to throw in there would help.

Prison Guard Beatdown
Original Poster: 8LimbsScientist
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 20-08-2007, 15:38

Orginal Post: 8LimbsScientist: http://media.ebaumsworld.com/prisonfight.wmv

Discuss?

This is one example where some MMA training would have come in handy. He got the clinch (almost) but had no idea what to do with it. Also, he basically fell into guard, it would be nice if he did something with it.

One other thing...I know its important for him to go for his weapon (in this case pepper spray) but damn, to be so singleminded about it that you catch an asswhooping in the process?

MS-13
Original Poster: V-for-Vendetta
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 16-08-2007, 17:44

Orginal Post: V-for-Vendetta: Has anyone heard of the gang the MS-13? The news did a special on them maybe a month ago. Anyway, I live in New Jersey, and more and more prevalent are their symbols on everyday items like sidewalks, traffic signs, buildings.

I'm considering adding KM to my training, which now is pretty much boxing and wrestling. I'm also considering knife and stick fighting as well. These guys are spreading like wildfire, and local townspeople are fast becomming shook. I live in a high gang-plagued area, and another one really isn't what I need.

Any opinions on what they would add or subtract about their training if you were in my situation?

Women's Self Defense
Original Poster: dscott
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 16-08-2007, 12:39

Orginal Post: dscott: I'm toying with the thought of approaching my instructor to teach a self defense class for my wife and her friends. The only thing I'm skeptical about is his experience with this type of thing. After all, women's self defense is a whole other style.

What are your experiences with women's self defense classes? Anyone ever taught one? I know there aren't many girls here but anyone ever attended one?

Also, it's not something that you would charge for right?

ultimate fighter back garden fight
Original Poster: Pim1
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 04-06-2007, 19:05

Orginal Post: Pim1: did anybody catch the fight that took place in the back yard, it was a bit poor but it did have some interesting points within it such as pulling guard when the other person is standing(in which he got slammed) & the most shocking of all the gullitine choke from guard during the second phase of the fight in which he put the deadly eye strikes in to escape the choke which he was succseful with, he did spin for an arm bar which was good but then got slammed on his head twice then let go of the arm. my point is that the eye strikes did work in that situation they did not cause damage to the eyes but nonetheless did cause him to go for another move.

that said it is hard to say what would have happened had that been against a person with no real understanding of ground work escapes etc.

what do think

adrenal dump...anybody know?
Original Poster: gobtit
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 10-05-2007, 17:41

Orginal Post: gobtit: anybody know about the "adrenal dump"? if so does anybody know any training methods to be able to think clearly during this or reduce it?
besides being in the real situation?

Is street fighting the missing link?
Original Poster: Elitexboxer
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 02-05-2007, 19:32

Orginal Post: Elitexboxer: Ive recently learned that some of the worlds gratest martial artists have had some kind of streetfighting experience like bruce lee,mas oyama,Choku Matobu,ect. I was wondering if perhaps street fighting is the best (and most dangerous) method of preparing for real combat.
Just looking for opinions.

Trouble after UFC 70
Original Poster: Pim1
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 01-05-2007, 08:14

Orginal Post: Pim1: Me & my friend were walking back to the car after enjoying UFC 70 in manchester, we were part of a large group (about 100 people) when we noticed raised voices, we looked over to see a male in his mid twentys & his wife/girlfriend shouting at a car with 5 adult males inside (lots of people around, the car could not move) . He wanted one or more to get out, his girlfriend was also shouting at them. iam not sure why they wanted 5 males to get out it must have been some sort of road rage. after 10 sec or so the front passenger gets out & the man who was shouting dropped his bottle quicker than a greasy palmed milkman but his girlfriend did not, she ran at him he grabbed her and tossed her to the floor & pulled his right leg back to kick her in the face thankfully he thought better of it, as this was happining a second male jumped out of the car and ran at the husband/boyfriend but nothing happened between them. Lots of shouting and threats followed etc.
nobody including myself did anything to stop or calm the incident down. the males got into the car and drove off. the whole thing lasted 30-40 sec or so.

Now that the facts are there, what are the lessons we should take from this incident?. here are mine

• do not challenge 5 adult males, you cannot win
  
• before leaving the house lock your ego in a box so it dose not get you killed, the whole incident was over nothing.
  
• self defence training is about protecting oneself & loved ones he did neither due to ego etc.

Myth or Reality: "Most street fights go to the ground.&
Original Poster: wuming
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 05-04-2007, 20:30

Orginal Post: wuming: I am sure everyone has heard the statement that "most street fights go to the ground." I was giving some thought to this statement as was hoping to possible find the truth, or falsity, in it. If this is already a post somewhere else oh well, sorry, just don't make any comments and send me to the right post. Anyways...

In a 1 v 1 fight -- for the sake of simplicity -- there are three main combinations of experience that you can run into: both fighters know how to fight, neither fighters know how to fight, or just one fighter knows how to fight. First of all, I wonder where the statistics or generalizations for this statement come from. This statement must come from experiences in at least one of these three categories, so the statistics from each category are going to turn out differently due to the samples themselves.

If neither people know how to fight, it is very easy to see how most of these fights might end up on the ground. Neither person has any training so it is rather easy for either one to lose his balance, or they might get tangled up, or they must just rush each other and attempt to pummel each other to death. I don't really see problem with the statement here. It does seem very plausible to me that most fights between unexperienced people could easly end up on the ground.

Now the other two categories get a little trickier because if a certain person is experience he might intend to take the fight to the ground because that is where his experience lies or he might try and keep the fight standing up. I find it very difficult here to try and debunk this statement in these two categories because you just might not know the fighter's intentions -- assuming that the experienced fighter is probably going to be more in control of the fight. If both fighter's are experienced again the situation gets even more complicated. Here each fighter's training will decide what action he takes and how he responds to the other fighter. If one fighter is a grappler who is trying to take a striker to the ground the fight could still go either way; there is no gaurantee that it will stay standing up or go to the ground. If the striker does not know how to defend himself against a grappler, sure he will go to the ground; but the real test will come in his capablity to defend against the grappler.

Thinking about this statement this way I find it very difficult to assess whether or not it is true or false because of the complications that arise in two out of the three categories. But, I do think that the statement does have some type of wisdom to it when considering the category of two inexperience fighters with no training (especially if they are sloppy drunk). I highly doubt there are any real statistics to back up this statement. I believe that the proof from this statement can only come from anecdotal evidence, which is very very difficult to remove the bias from. All in all, I believe that this statement not quite a fact but still not quite a myth. For some people this statement may be true and for others it might be exaclty the opposite depending on their past experiences or training biases. There are just too many confounding variables to consider when thinking of this statement. At best it is a way of percieving a fight and when thought of this way there is nothing wrong with the statement at all. If that is how you think most fights end up then you will train to fight in that manner and for you that will be reality and it is not incorrect and the same goes if you believe that not all fights go to the ground.

I know I probably just beat a dead horse or over analyzed a simple little statement, but I just wanted to get that out of my head. :D

Do Firearms Make Martial Arts Obsolete?
Original Poster: vladimir
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 04-03-2007, 23:05

Orginal Post: vladimir: This post is just to see what peoples? opinions are regarding this and the reasons behind them. I personally believe the statement is false and rather ridiculous, although I have met people who believe it.

low kicks
Original Poster: opariser1001
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 04-03-2007, 22:14

Orginal Post: opariser1001: when are low kicks effective? are they only effective in the ring or cage? or do you guys think that they can be put to good use on the street? discuss.

Real Fight Stories / Experiences
Original Poster: opariser1001
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 18-02-2007, 05:27

Orginal Post: opariser1001: Please use this topic to talk about and share stories and experiences of real street fights or real fighting experiences.

Fight School
Original Poster: forddaddy89
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 29-01-2007, 21:30

Orginal Post: forddaddy89: My firends brother, a sophmore in high school recently asked me to teach him how to fight. What would be the best teaching method to make sure he can handle himself. I was never necessarily taught, my brother just whooped me until I got it. lol

Self Taught Self Defense
Original Poster: chiguy
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 29-01-2007, 07:31

Orginal Post: chiguy: I don't have the money to invest in self defense or martial classes. What are some good books or videos one can recommend for the self learner? Thanks.

striking
Original Poster: slaytanicslaughter
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 26-01-2007, 22:00

Orginal Post: slaytanicslaughter: anyone know any good and effective striking techniques i could use?

how to?
Original Poster: slaytanicslaughter
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 26-01-2007, 19:53

Orginal Post: slaytanicslaughter: how do you get yourself into a position where you can do any submission that any martial artist can do, when you are just starting your fight?

Want to learn how to fight like a Navy SEAL?
Original Poster: vladimir
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 24-01-2007, 16:13

Orginal Post: vladimir: http://www.fightingarts.com/reading/article.php?id=46

What are peoples' opinions on his Martial Art and the way it is taught. A few of the things don't seem too effective but guess the the proof is in the pudding.

Quote:

SCARS teaches participants the proper way to use close kicks. to illustrate, Blake Peterson uses his shin to strike his opponent's throat.

Weight Training Benefits for Fighting
Original Poster: axkii
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 15-01-2007, 14:16

Orginal Post: axkii: The subject says it all i guess... i'd just like to see people's opinions about training particular muscle groups for close combat street fights, and whether a certain type of weight training is more beneficial when it comes to training for close combat fighting and streetfights. Also, is it better to tone (lower weight, more reps) or strengthen (higher weight, less reps) your arm muscles for a mainly fist fight?

1 vs 1+
Original Poster: GrappleToWin
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 25-12-2006, 04:54

Orginal Post: GrappleToWin: HAve any of you fought more then 1 person at a time??? i havent like real fighting ya ive screwed around with friends boxed, mma exc. but i mean like a real fight howd it go? ohhh and on my last post lol i wasnt really lookin for advice lol i just wanted to know what you would do

Humiliating the defeated
Original Poster: bilsimo
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 05-12-2006, 21:21

Orginal Post: bilsimo: Is it ever OK to humiliate someone who has been beaten? What's the worst you've seen?

I once saw a guy who had great kickboxing skill beat the shit out of four guys at once outside a bar for starting some shit with his girlfriend. Two were knocked out cold from roundhouse kicks to the head.

He made one guy with a bloody nose (apparently broken), get on his knees, kiss his feet and beg for mercy.

Amazing.

Sharing experiences from Krav-Maga "seminar"
Original Poster: Blade
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 20-11-2006, 18:21

Orginal Post: Blade: Ive been training for the past few months in a special program that prepares teenagers before the army, besides the regular endurance and bootcamp like training we also get to taste other things, our coach brought us a krav maga instructor that works with the army special forces to give us a feel for the krav maga courses that special units in the army undergo. it was offcourse watered down, because in the army they are much more rough with you but it was still interesting to experience it.
we were shown the KM stance and then we were told to always defend our head and always face our opponent, he said that he's our opponent for the next training sessions, so anyone that forgot that and didnt face him got a little hit or kick in the ass to remind him hehe, he always told us to remain focused and aware of where he is, once in a while he'd come around and start hitting our heads lightly, if you held your hands too low and werent able to defend you had to do 20 pushups, throught the sessions he would scream out something that meant either to sprint to that wall and back or start crawling towards a certain direction, or just lay on your stomache \back and if he shouted a number you had to do the appropriet pushups\sit-ups. and when you were done you were always expected to get back to the stance, defend your head and face him, which gets very tiring after a while. we didnt get much technique, we did agressiveness drills where we had to wrestle with eachother from a back-to-back sitted position, or we held eachother's hands and had to pull eachother over the line between us, we did a drill where a number of people formed a column to simulate a crowd and we had to crash through them pushing everyone aside and then sprint here and there and punch the pads, besides this we learnt some punches kicks knees and elbows which we practiced on pads, then we combined these with crawling , running and certain stations where we had to give certain combinations,
we also did a drill where one person would stand in the middle with 4 guys sorrounding him then whoever hits\pushes him with the pad he has to punch him until hit by another pad and so on...thats pretty much what we did , 2 sessions only , we were supposed to do knife techniques aswell but we didnt :\, hopefully we'l do it in the future.
overall it wasent very interesting material for someone with experience in martial arts espacialy because these were only 2 sessions but the atmosphere and the teaching methods were something new to experience : .

Self-Defense Mindsetting
Original Poster: vladimir
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 19-11-2006, 09:36

Orginal Post: vladimir: Self-Defense Mindsetting

Most of the ideas on this page come from the book Strong On Defense by Sanford Strong, one of the leading experts on violent crime avoidance and prevention. Ideas from the book are reproduced here with Mr. Strong's permission. His book is a must-read for anyone even remotely interested in the safety of one's self and loved ones. See the Links page for ordering information. Other ideas have been gleaned from the experiences of Carl Cestari and Emin Boztepe.


When all of your efforts at staying safe and avoiding trouble fail, and you become the victim of a violent assault, what will happen? When the limbic system in your brain triggers your fight-or-flight response, such that your heart races, your stomach tightens, blood floods and energizes your musculature, and your mind seeks to "escape" the situation at hand, how will you react?

We've all heard horror stories about how some people, even those with years of martial arts training, cognitively and physically freeze up under stress, allowing violent criminals to gain control over and abuse them. Yet other people, even untrained ones, instantly explode in threatening situations, allowing their natural physiological responses to danger to help them either flee quickly or overwhelm even multiple, large, armed attackers with extreme counter-violence. How can you ensure that you'll be in the second group, not the first?

It begins with proper mindsetting to deal with dangerous situations.

All psychologically normal human beings, especially those unaccustomed to violence, will feel extreme fear upon perceiving the danger of a violent attack. If you are not mentally prepared to deal with the situation, that fear can work against you, and you will be entrusting your safety primarily to luck.

The most important factor in successfully defending yourself is not how well you can do techniques or movements, but how well you have cultivated your self-defense mindset.

Here are some basic mindsetting requirements:

First, memorize and constantly remind yourself of these principles of self-defense:

React Immediately!
The more time you take to react to an attack, the more time you give the attackers to bring you under control.

Resist!
Crime statistics show that resisting with all you've got is vastly preferable to letting a violent criminal have his way with you.

Escape Now!
Get out of the situation as quickly as you can. Do not stand and fight or wait for the police, or hang around for any other reason.

No Crime Scene #2!
If a violent criminal moves you from the place of initial contact to a second location, your odds of survival fall dramatically.

Never, Ever Give Up!!!
People have escaped and survived dangerous situations after being riddled with bullets, after falling several stories, after being burned, blinded, etc. No matter what happens, YOU WILL SURVIVE.
Now, do the following mindsetting exercises:


Decide conclusively and adamantly, and reinforce periodically, that you are more afraid of the attackers' getting control over you than you are of getting injured while resisting. Crime statistics overwhelmingly show that this outlook is more than reasonable. You can accomplish this by reading about and occasionally dwelling on the horror of what violent criminals do to controllable victims. Realize that you likely WILL get injured in some way while resisting a violent attack, but that this is always preferable to the alternative.

Decide and remind yourself periodically that you will NEVER believe a criminal. Most violent criminals "suffer" from anti-social personality disorder. Common symptoms of this disorder are compulsive lying and manipulative behavior. Promises such as, "Do as I say and I won't hurt you," and "I'll let you go if you stop fighting," don't carry much weight when they are said by a violent criminal.

Decide and remind yourself often that the SURVIVAL of your loved ones and yourself are your only important considerations in an emergency situation. These are your two overwhelming priorities, in contrast to the health (freedom from injury) of yourself or loved ones, the well-being of bystanders or the attackers, or considerations of property, morality, legality, or aftermath. This will prevent less important considerations from causing confusion and hesitation under stress. Remember that any other considerations can be dealt with later (going to the hospital, getting a lawyer, therapy, etc.). The survival of you and your loved ones cannot.

Condition yourself to have no qualms about utilizing ruthless brutality against attackers. Realize and remind yourself that the horror of what an attacker will do to you far surpasses the gravity of any squeamishness you may feel about e.g. gouging his eyes out, ripping his throat out, crushing his gonads, or biting off his fingers. A supplementary trick is to repeatedly watch the most gruesome parts of the movie Saving Private Ryan (or any other movie containing graphic, realistic violence) until the violence does not affect you.

Mentally rehearse correct responses to a variety of dangerous situations, imagining them as vividly as possible. Under the stress of a dangerous situation, people are usually unable to formulate plans of action from scratch. Most resort to a decision heuristic of similarity. In other words, the mind automatically references a similar situation from the person's experience and applies the course of action that worked in that situation to the current situation. If no remotely similar situation is available in memory, the mind is at a loss to decide what to do and cognitive freezing may occur. While vivid mental rehearsals of emergency situations may be poor substitutes for actual simulations or especially the real thing, they are certainly better than nothing and are often the best references available to the average citizen. Mentally rehearse a few likely types of scenarios repeatedly, applying the proper principles to your imaginary reactions. Imagine yourself applying the principles of self-defense (specific techniques or movements are unimportant) to real situations reported in the news.
Some reminders:


For our purposes, any attempt to control the victim, physically or otherwise, represents a violent attack. We wish to prevent the attacker from gaining any control from the first moment.

Mindsetting consists of having important, difficult decisions made and conditioned into your mind ahead of time. This is required to produce instant action in dangerous situations, because cognitive performance decreases dramatically under severe stress.

Mindsetting is not a one-time exercise. The self-defense mindset must be maintained, refreshed, and reinforced periodically if it is to serve us well in the moment of truth.

The violent criminal is not always a faceless boogeyman hiding in the shadows. You are statistically more likely to be attacked by someone you know.

If a criminal demands property, give it to him and immediately escape. Don't hang around to find out what else he has in store for you.

If a criminal attempts to kill you as you run away, he almost certainly would have executed you point-blank had you stayed put. You have a better chance running.

--Ari Kandel

US Army Field Manual On Hand-To-Hand Combat
Original Poster: vladimir
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 15-11-2006, 17:06

Orginal Post: vladimir: http://www.wanderworks.com/chilichokers/combatives_toc.htm#fig7_6

Redbeard's "Public" Evaluate my Workout thread.
Original Poster: Robert_RedBeard
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 05-11-2006, 00:56

Orginal Post: Robert_RedBeard: Hello and thanks for advance for any input.

A little background first.

I have done this workout before and it worked well for me. The last two years or so I have had a job where I was sitting on my butt for way to much time. So over the last two years I have managed to get overweight again.

It's time to correct that problem so I am working out once again.

I workout in two week cycles. Consisting of 6 strength workouts and 6 cardio wokouts. In addition I walk and run with weight added in a backpack.

Here is my schedule:

Day 1: Cardio
Day 2: Upper Body
Day 3: Cardio
Day 4: Lower Body
Day 5: Cardio
Day 6: Upper Body
Day 7: Day Off for R & R

Day 8: Cardio
Day 9: Lower Body
Day 10: Cardio
Day 11: Upper Body
Day 12: Cardio
Day 13: Lower Body
Day 14: Day Off for R & R

Okay, for Upper Body, I do Pushups with the weighted pack(Chest), Hammer Curls(Biceps), Rows(Back), Shruggs(Shoulders), Crunches(Upper Abs) and Overhead Dumbell Extentions(Triceps).

For Lower Body, I do Straight Leg Dead Lifts(Hamstrings), Squats(Quadriceps), Standing Calf Raises(Calves Duh) and Leg Lifts(Lower Abs).

For Cardio, I Walk, Jog and Run with a weighted pack.

Starting next week I will be adding an MMA workout. I have Bas Rutten's MMA Workout Tapes. Basically I will be Kicking, Punching and Sprawliing for Cardio so I can improve my over all striking skills and stamina.

Here is how I determine how much of each excersize to do. I do each exercise till I cannot do it any more. I then take the number of reps I accomplish and devide the number by 2. I take half the reps I can do in a setting and do that number of reps for three sets.

I do all the excersizes in a curcuit fashion then walk, run or jog a lap around the park I workout at in between curcuits.

Please, I would like any criticism or input that you may be able to add.

I would also like to know if I could post video of me working my MMA curcuit for critique by you guys. I feel I need the input.

As I said, thanks in advance.

MMAI Online Training Aids
Original Poster: Robert_RedBeard
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 14-10-2006, 15:15

Orginal Post: Robert_RedBeard: Here is the Vital Targets Training Aid from my Site.

Modern Martial Arts Initiative Training Aids: Vital Targets

I will also have it in a PDF format bit torrent on Pirate Bay soon.

Beware, not all of the site is finished yet. So most links are a dead end.

Guest Book, Home, What is MMAI and What is the Virtual Training Hall links work. I think.

What are your aread of training
Original Poster: johnny1974
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 10-10-2006, 21:13

Orginal Post: johnny1974: What are your areas of traing

Can An Upward Palm Strike To The Nose Lethal?
Original Poster: vladimir
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 10-10-2006, 20:40

Orginal Post: vladimir: I've always thought it wasn't lethal but recently have heard from some more knowledgeable people who said it was.

Has anyone heard of people doing jiujitsu after neck surgery
Original Poster: johnny1974
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 10-10-2006, 20:04

Orginal Post: johnny1974: I have only had about 3 months training in jujutsu which helped me navigate quite a few street fights when I was younger. I love martial arts and would love to train in bjj but am faced with a probable neck surgery. Has anyone heard of training after those set of circumstances.

Thank you for your reply

Quick Strikes
Original Poster: grievous
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 05-10-2006, 15:45

Orginal Post: grievous: Hi there,

I'm kind of in a situation where I'm out-matched in the real world. For the past few weeks, I've been working for a buddy of mine as a bouncer - outside of school and lifting. Last night, one of the patrons flew off the handle and approached me and my friend shouting before I talked to him and we eventually convinced him to leave before the police were called.

I'm by no means a professional bouncer. But I'm roughly '57, and built pretty big. I've been told that I look pretty intimidating. But I can look at a lot of these guys and see how easily out-matching I am.

So, my question is to those with decent experience on handling a situation of some 6'2, raging dude coming at you. I don't expect any full-proof (if there is such a thing) on some Steven Segal stuff, but something to possibly cause intense harm to someone so we can either restrain or call the police.

My friend told me that I wear these big black boots, which have lifts in them to make me appear a little taller. He suggested I sideways kick someone in the shin to drop them. Or a straight kick with the tip of my boot into the ankle or kneecap. Another suggested I try to create motion to deliver strikes to the floating ribs, or throat to drop someone.

Again, real-world advice. I've looked into combat manuals and such, but I don't even want to pretend to be some world-class combatant. I just want to end whatever scuffle by any means necessary, very quickly.