About self defence stances...
Original Poster: Elitexboxer
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 18-04-2006, 01:52
Orginal Post: Elitexboxer: 1'st of all I am quite familiar with the overall protection of a side stance
and the superior power of a front stance.
so is there A popular streetfighting/self defence stance?
Also, Is it practical to block groin kicks?
Post: Hengest:
My stance? You could call it da art of standing widout standing...
Bascially, the best stance is pretty much no stance. At least not in the front stance, horse stance kind of way.
I've always adopted a natural posture, what they call shizen tai in Japanese MA. Body angled at about 45 degrees to the opponent, feet slightly apart, hands at waist level, either upturned as if gesticulating in conversation, or in a guarding "look, I don't want any trouble mate" posture.
If you have to fall into any other stance in a self defence situation, then things are already going wrong. If you pull a stance before a punch has been thrown, then you're an idiot.
As for groin kicks, unless you stand square on to your opponent, you're probably not going to have to worry. It's actually very difficult to hit the groin in an actual situation. If it does happen, it's usually dumb luck rather than accurate technique.>
Post: Elitexboxer:
[quote=Hengest My stance? You could call it da art of standing widout standing...
Bascially, the best stance is pretty much no stance. At least not in the front stance, horse stance kind of way.
I've always adopted a natural posture, what they call shizen tai in Japanese MA. Body angled at about 45 degrees to the opponent, feet slightly apart, hands at waist level, either upturned as if gesticulating in conversation, or in a guarding "look, I don't want any trouble mate" posture.
If you have to fall into any other stance in a self defence situation, then things are already going wrong. If you pull a stance before a punch has been thrown, then you're an idiot.
As for groin kicks, unless you stand square on to your opponent, you're probably not going to have to worry. It's actually very difficult to hit the groin in an actual situation. If it does happen, it's usually dumb luck rather than accurate technique.[/quote
Okay,so really I should look into defensive footwork just in case (I really dont want to be kicked down there!)
By the way, is it possible to launch powerful attacks from the Shizen Tai stance?
should I try to stay in this stance thru the entire fight?>
Post: samurai6string:
check the other stance thread. I agree with Hengest, and adopt the same "prayer stance" or "beggar's stance," and say why on the other thread.>
Post: samurai6string:
It's under Others>stance>
Post: Wong_Kei_Ying:
[quote=Elitexboxer ...so is there A popular streetfighting/self defence stance? Also, Is it practical to block groin kicks?[/quote
If you mean by popularity you mean: Commonly used, then the stance that Hengest mentioned (something in between Ichimonji no Kamae and Shizen no Kamae) is popular.
[quote=Elitexboxer should I try to stay in this stance thru the entire fight? [/quote
But, in my humble opinion, there is no one stance that is above all others. Your stance should vary first by your body type, Adopt a stance that you are comfortable with and complements your personal style of fighting.
In practical combat, you stance you vary depending on the situation. (eg: Multiple attackers, Weapons, Injury etc..)
Can I assume that you are a Boxer, Eliteboxer..? Then a traditional boxing stance is very practical to block groin kicks if you know how and are quick enough without compromising your hands to strike nor your balance...
[quote=Elitexboxer
Okay,so really I should look into defensive footwork just in case (I really dont want to be kicked down there!) [/quote
First and foremost: The best block is no block at all, if you can evade the strike...
Using this picture as a model (I'm really sorry people, I couldn't find a better pic in short notice) Your Groin being the target: If your opponent executes a "Rising" Front Kick in between your legs. Rotate the on the ball of your right foot so that you bring your right knee to left knee while keeping your right ball of where it initially was... The opponent will strike you on you shin or bottom of your knee, depending on your timing and your opponent?s accuracy.
[quote=Elitexboxer By the way, is it possible to launch powerful attacks from the Shizen Tai stance? [/quote
If your opponent executes a straight front thrust kick, then rotate on the balls of your feet and turn to your right. A few things could happen: the attacker will miss or kick you on your hip again depending on your timing and your opponent?s accuracy. This is a perfect set up for a counter attack.
Hope it helps>
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