Effective strikes in a real fight
Original Poster: GrappleToWin
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 07-06-2006, 06:53
Orginal Post: GrappleToWin: has anyone ever used a a head butt? i havent thought it was too risky i was just wondering....
Post: Hengest:
[quote=GrappleToWin has anyone ever used a a head butt? i havent thought it was too risky i was just wondering....[/quote
In my experience, headbutts are one of the most effective techniques you can have in your arsenal. Using the five-to-six-technique-bag method that most of the greats of reality combat advocate, I'd still put headbutts firmly at number two, possibly at number one if you've developed it to the point where you can use it effectively as a pre-emptive strike.
I've headbutted from a clinch, a mount, and as a pre-emptive strike. I've even used the sides and back of my head to butt with on occassion and always with great results. Headbutting is the technique as far as I'm concerned. Anybody who tells you butting is dangerous or ineffective just can't do it properly.>
Post: samurai6string:
Hen> please enlighten me. I've never really thought much about head butts as my neck is fairly weak from injuries when I was younger. Ideally, what part of the head are you trying to strike with? At about your hairline?>
Post: Hengest:
Well mate, I can't really go by hairline, seeing as I no longer have much of one!
But yeah, the ideal striking area should the hard boney area between the eyebrow and (a young person's) hairline. The most effective target area would be the opponent's nose: higher and it's going to be bone on bone, lower and you just won't do enough damage. I had a guy headbutt me full in the mouth once; all it did was split my lip and piss me off.
He has a new shoulder now. It's amazing what they can do with plastic.>
Post: samurai6string:
lmao, I had thought the hairline might be a problem, then I figured "nah what are the odds?">
Post: Gangsta_Nerd:
I've used head-butt's several times. I find them to be just as effective, if not more, than elbow's.
By the way, I always go for the top of the nose. If I can't get to it efectively, I pass on the head-butt.>
Post: hustler:
use it fast or your opponent will use it use it as much as feesable because mostly a good punch is more effective>
Post: angryrocker4:
I headbutt everything. When grapplin I hit the dudes knuckles to release a grip. It doesn't hurt that I have spikes on my helm.>
Post: graham1:
Be careful using headbutts. I had a work colleague who sustained brain damage from his frequent use of them in fights.>
Post: GrappleToWin:
thanks guys that helped but dude what r u talkin about when u sya their more effective then elbowsa i dont think thats nearly true>
Post: communist:
all i can say on this is if ur gonan do it, make sure its' the front/top of urs on his face>
Post: nbotary:
[quote=communist all i can say on this is if ur gonan do it, make sure its' the front/top of urs on his face[/quote What the fuck kind of a comment is that??? Are you retarded or are the paint chips you ate starting to catch up with you???
By the way communist, I noticed you're lame ass post to Sensei in the "Ask Sensei" forum. I'm guessing you're in Special Ed classes seeing as you couldn't even spell "Sensei" correctly and all you had to do was look at the top of the page. I also find it rather humorous that you've now asked him the same question twice and he still hasn't answered you. I'll save him the trouble. You've got a problem with some dude??? Why??? Did he bang your sister like a screen door in a hurricane??? Just go up to him and offer to blow him in the parking lot. That way, everyone will know that you suck and nobody will jack with you - except for the ass bandits... Hope that helps.
DON'T COME ON HERE AND ASK STUPID FUCKING QUESTIONS!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:>
Post: samurai6string:
Back to the title of this post....I'm a big fan of using a palm heel or shotei(where apropriate), as I'm more of a grappler and don't want to chance fucking up my hand in the heat of the moment.>
Post: Hengest:
[quote=samurai6string Back to the title of this post....I'm a big fan of using a palm heel or shotei(where apropriate), as I'm more of a grappler and don't want to chance fucking up my hand in the heat of the moment.[/quote
Palm strikes are great. I wished I'd worked with them more when I had more opportunity to use them!
I'm also a big fan of what can only really be described as the "bitch slap". It's great as a pre-emptive. A few months ago I witnessed a good friend of mine knock some bloke stupid with one. Certainly filled him with "shock and awe".>
Post: Gangsta_Nerd:
[quote=GrappleToWin thanks guys that helped but dude what r u talkin about when u sya their more effective then elbowsa i dont think thats nearly true[/quote
It might not be true for you, homie; but, it works better for me, because my head is less sensitive than my elbow's.
I can hit a cat with a head-butt & "dead" his ass; unfortunately, when I throw an elbow, CORRECTLY, I tend to hold back, because it gives me a tingling sensation, very similar to the feeling you can get from slamming your "funny bone.">
Post: GrappleToWin:
dude if that tingling sensation is whats stopping you from throwing a bow then your a pussy in a real fight or a mma fight u cant be worried about a little tingle u gotta beat your opponents ass before he can beat yours>
Post: Gangsta_Nerd:
I never said it stop's me from throwing one, I said I tend to "hold back" & prefer head-butts. I'm a Muay Thai practitioner, so, OF COURSE, I throw elbows! If I was afraid of throwing them I would switch to another martial art! :roll:
Never the less, I STILL prefer head-butts! I don't plan on being in a competetive MMA fight; therefore, I could care less about what type of "heart" you have to have in some RING!
I'm VERY familiar with the streets. No offense, but, I laughed when I read this:
"u cant be worried about a little tingle[; u gotta beat your opponents ass before he can beat yours[. "
NO SHIT, SHERLOCK! I'm more than capable of handeling mines over here! You just worry about playin' yo' position where ever you at! 8)
Sincerely, >
Post: nbotary:
[quote=GrappleToWin dude if that tingling sensation is whats stopping you from throwing a bow then your a pussy in a real fight or a mma fight u cant be worried about a little tingle u gotta beat your opponents ass before he can beat yours[/quote Words of prohpetic wisdom from Einstein himself... I love when people come on here and use street fighting and competition fighting in the same context... :roll:
If you fight on the streets the same way you would fight in a "compete-for-trophies/points" fight, you deserve to have the shit kicked out of you. Whether you punch, kick, use an elbow, head-butt, nose pick, butt plug, or French Tickler is totally irrelevant. Pick a target, use your tools and unleash hell. Personally, I prefer to attack soft spots and vital targets such as the eyes and throat. A person can't fight back if they can't see/breath. But then again, I'm a ruthless bastard and I have no regard for you, your life or those in it if you sought trouble with me for no reason other than the fact that you're trying to be Johnny Toughnuts to impress your own ego. I'm not above offering free dental work a la a "curbface smiley". If you fuck with me, I'll see to it you remember me and what happened everytime you see me - if you can still see afterwards. THAT is how you should approach your street fight...>
Post: sheato:
And the tingling should fade... at least it did for me. I had the same problem with my knees and elbows for a while. I don't know if it was how I was striking with them, the bag that I used, or if I just built-up resistance to it or what, but I don't get tingles in my elbows anymore.
So yeah GN, don't be such a pussy. :lol:
Thanks so much for the words of wisdom, GrappleToWin. :roll:>
Post: dscott:
[quote=sheato or if I just built-up resistance to it or what, but I don't get tingles in my elbows anymore.[/quote
Or you just killed all the nerves in your elbow that were "tingling". :lol: :lol:>
Post: sheato:
yeah, or that. 8O>
Post: zefff:
I had a tingly elbow too for a year after I broke it. Its faded now though even though I can still feel the hole in the bone. I ended up adjusting my elbow strikes by twisting the hand as I threw it. The twist made the striking point shift by a few millimeters, which was enough to avoid the tingly spot. This worked for horizontal, rising and downward strikes BTW. :)>
Post: Gangsta_Nerd:
There you have it Grapple!! I'm not the only one who has had a tingling problem with elbows :idea: >
Post: GrappleToWin:
i never said u were the only one or im saying i fite on the streets like i don in a ring but what i was trying to say is either way u cant worry about a little tingle just push through it or like they said destroy all the neveres that were tingling lol>
Post: Gangsta_Nerd:
That's cool, Grapple! I'm glad we got passed that minor disagreement. 8)
Now on to your most recent comment:
"[I fi[gh t on the streets like [I [do in a ring..."
I find this hard to beleive. Don't get me wrong; I know at times it's possible to be extremely intense during a session, but, you still have regard for your sparring partner.
On the streets, I don't give a fuc how hard I hit my "enemy" or how hurt I am, 'cause that's part of the code of "street fights;" however, in a "ring," I don't feel the same intensity to "hurt" my enemy, or over come pain!
I can understand conditioning your body for average/above average punches, kicks, elbows, knees, etc. BUT CONTINUING TO SPAR WITH BROKEN RIBS/JAW, A BUSTED LIP/NOSE, OR EVEN A DAMN TWISTED ANKLE; SQUIRRELL PLEASE! :roll:
Now on the street, I don't give a damn what's hurting on me, I'M NOT BACKING DOWN TILL THE MUTHA FUCCA PARALIZES ME! 8)
In the "ring," I'm more concerned with perfecting my technique and learning how to avoid "hard shots;" it's not about having "heart" or being "hard."
Just my two cents!>
Post: sheato:
[quote=GrappleToWin i never said... i fite on the streets like i don in a ring but... [/quote
GN, I think he was saying he doesn't fight in the ring as if its a real fight on the street. I think.>
Post: Gangsta_Nerd:
Oh! My bad! :oops:
P.S. Can you blame me?! That sentence was not the easiest to read. :wink: I think he threw me off when he made the conjuction "or I'm saying," instead of "or that I." As a matter of fact, the NERD in me is pissed that his grammatical error made me look STUPID! :evil: :lol:
I mean come on Grapple, which one sounds better:
"i never said u were the only one or im saying i fite on the streets like i don in a ring...." :roll:
OR
"[I never said [you were the only one or [THAT [I fi[gh t on the streets like [I [do in a ring...." :wink:
No offense, Grapple. :P I can't help being a N.E.R.D. :cry:
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Post: GrappleToWin:
ya i agree that shit didnt was hard to understand lol. but no, in the training i hit my partner hard as hell and him the same but like u said in the ring u want to perfect your technique. well if your tech. is perfect then how do u know it will actually work. what im tryin to say is i know a few ppl in other MA styles that have flawless kata and i kick their ass when we spar. And like you said in a street fight your not going down because you cant feel the pain thats what i mean if u spar like that then IF someting happens in the street then maybe youll fall back on the shit youve learned? understand?>
Post: zefff:
Miss Grammer. If you like the look of her, why dont you get to know her a bit better?
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Post: GrappleToWin:
hahaha who you talkin to me cuz i really dont care how i spell as long as your can read it.>
Post: Gangsta_Nerd:
Grapple is probably feeling Ms. Grammer; but, I ain't into the blonde hair, fake titty broad's! :roll:
What you know 'bout this cuzz:
ALL NATURAL!!!! :P :P :P >
Post: dscott:
[quote=GrappleToWin hahaha who you talkin to me cuz i really dont care how i spell as long as your can read it.[/quote
I think that's the problem.....we can't usually read it though.>
Post: nbotary:
[quote=GrappleToWin hahaha who you talkin to me cuz i really dont care how i spell as long as your can read it.[/quote Funny you should say that - I have a hard time reading it because you spell like shit. :roll: FYI, if you spell like shit, you won't make sense, and you leave yourself open to being flamed for coming across as an uneducated retard. But, if you want to get flamed, more power to you... :twisted:
By the way, don't think for a second you can crack on the Gangsta Nerd, cause my boy write's his slang with style... :wink: :lol:>
Post: Gangsta_Nerd:
Hey yo' N.B.,
What ya' think about ol' gal, Buffie "The Body?"
Shartie's stacked, right :?: :!: >
Post: nbotary:
Playa, I'm glad you know my style!!! :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:>
Post: zefff:
....err....what where we talkin about? 8O :oops: :( :oops: :?>
Post: GrappleToWin:
shit i didnt even realise the i spelt your in stead of you oh well its been a rough week 3 lacrosse games in 4 days practice 3 hours the day we havent had it and ive gotten home round 1130pm each nite then went to bed round 2ish so ya shit happend but ya shes nice i gotta hand it to ya>
Post: Gazelle:
[quote=zefff ....err....what where we talkin about? 8O :oops: :( :oops: :?[/quote
Your started it, mate. Why did you do that again?
And, Grapple to win, i do find your posts harder to read because of the spelling, and shorthand too. Why don't you do us all a favour and write a little more in full and correctly, it doesn't take that much longer. I don't mean it horribly, and it doesn't have to be perfect, just a little easier to make sense of.>
Post: JH:
@Gazelle: I think that would be against the "streetfighters code", which states that anyone who talks about streetfighting on a messageboard, must write as incomprehensible as possible.>
Post: Gazelle:
Well, if he is going for being as incomprehensible as possible then he really needs to work harder! I was wondering, who do you think wrote this code?>
Post: graham1:
Are you sure you don't want to buy any seafront property in Arizona?>
Post: Gazelle:
I was joking! I do do so occassionally.>
Post: samurai6string:
Sorry everybody, but I just wasn't feelin' either one of the Ms. Grammars, so here's my Ms Grammar, or maybe she's a Ms. Spelling (get it? har har har.)
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Post: Gazelle:
Samurai, the image isn't showing.>
Post: samurai6string:
well, that's a darn shame. It's showing on mine, oh well, nothing too exciting for ya Gaz, just a pretty lil asian girl with pigtails and a sun dress thingy.>
Post: Gazelle:
Well, as long as you can see it, mate.>
Post: Tapout95:
Oh I see that pic alright, and i'm a-liking. I totally agree with you S6S, she is the better in my book too. She just looks more playful too. I would like to give her an effective strike. :twisted: :twisted:
Boy was that lame.... :(>
Post: Gazelle:
Yeah, well mate, it's the thought that counts!>
Post: zefff:
Sorry for bringing the thread down to the gutter but the girl in my pic is actually called Daralyn Grammer so my post was porn with a purpose. :)
Funny how different people have different tastes though cos Im not feeling 6strings pic at all.>
Post: nbotary:
Porn with a purpose... ??? Dude, that's good!!! :wink: :twisted: :lol:>
Post: GrappleToWin:
Ok I'll try to write in fuller sentences if that makes you happy and you can read the stuff easier. But while im replying what other type of strinking do you like in a streetfight.>
Post: samurai6string:
okay- low roundhouse kicks to the outside (or inside) of the knee, more for breaking balance, but you could do some damage if your kicks are strong enough.>
Post: Gazelle:
[quote=nbotary Porn with a purpose... ??? Dude, that's good!!! :wink: :twisted: :lol:[/quote
Note he said 'porn with a purpose', not 'Porn with an excuse'.>
Post: GrappleToWin:
:wink: Porns porn man cept for gay porn lol im straight as a circle so i dont watch that shit.... :twisted:>
Post: graham1:
I've never bothered with porn.
I could never find a pornagraph to play it on.>
Post: zefff:
:? ... :lol: That was your worst shitty joke ever! :lol:>
Post: Gazelle:
Everyone has their off days!>
Post: nbotary:
"Pornograph"??? Isn't that a song by Def Leppard?!?!?! :lol: 80's music rocks!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:>
Post: graham1:
[quote=Gazelle Everyone has their off days![/quote
I never have an on day!>
Post: graham1:
[quote=zefff :? ... :lol: That was your worst shitty joke ever! :lol:[/quote
Does that mean that my other shitty jokes were better?>
Post: Gazelle:
[quote=graham1 [quote=zefff :? ... :lol: That was your worst shitty joke ever! :lol:[/quote
Does that mean that my other shitty jokes were better?[/quote
Yes, it would tend to imply that.>
Post: zefff:
Please dont answer for me. I put smilies on there so it did make me laugh. Sometimes bad jokes can be so bad that they end up succeeding in generating a laugh.>
Post: graham1:
It would've helped if I'd put a bit more thought in my answer.>
Post: GrappleToWin:
lol rough>
Post: Gazelle:
[quote=zefff Please dont answer for me. I put smilies on there so it did make me laugh. Sometimes bad jokes can be so bad that they end up succeeding in generating a laugh.[/quote
Sorry, didn't mean to answer for you, i was just stating that that's what i thought you meant. :oops:>
Post: zefff:
shame on you! :lol: ;)>
Post: Gazelle:
:)>
Post: thesunwolf:
Quote: "It might not be true for you, homie; but, it works better for me, because my head is less sensitive than my elbow's.
I can hit a cat with a head-butt & "dead" his ass; unfortunately, when I throw an elbow, CORRECTLY, I tend to hold back, because it gives me a tingling sensation, very similar to the feeling you can get from slamming your "funny bone."'
I'm not speaking from a ton of experience, just a few months Krav Maga training, some common sense and getting in a few scrapes growing up, but here's my two cents:
Head butts are devastating. But, they are hard to practice to land properly. The bridge of the nose is a small target and it is hard to know where you're making contact in practice (both on you and your target). Sadly, we can't practice on cadavers or prisoners.
Elbows, if used properly, are probably third next to a solid knee (combined with pulling the opponent into you) for effect.
Honestly, if your arm is tingling, you may be missing the target area on your arm. A correct elbow isn't an elbow. The strike is with the forearm from about two or three inches above your elbow to about six to eight inches above your elbow, the effectiveness dissapating the further you go from the elbow.
Palm heel strikes are an absolute favorite of mine because they don't involve the body commitment that head butts, knees and elbows require. They are fast and damiging if done correctly, and there is little or no chance of damaging your hand, unlike punches where there is actually a GOOD chance of mangling your paw.>
Post: bamboo:
Welcome Sunwolf. :wink:>
Post: thesunwolf:
Good to be here. I'm a newbie, but I'm getting into MMA training. I workout with team GForce, a group of guys training for cage fighting here in the tri-state area (Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana).
They're fighting in Caged Inferno: http://www.cagedinferno.com/in June. Sadly, I'll be in Floriday that weekend. But anyone in the area should attend. If these guys are any indication of what that night is going to be like, it's going to be nuts. Supposedly the promoter had more than sixty applications from fighters. They had to turn away so many people that they're scheduling "feeder" fights for the months after Caged Inferno II to build a card for Caged Inferno III in October along with the winners from CI II.
The GForce guys have already progressed to the point that I don't spar or roll with them anymore until my training progresses a little more.
Look forward to learning more from you cats. I'll be posting for some training and bag work suggestions shortly. Gotta squeeze some work in at some point today.
-M>
Post: bamboo:
Very cool!
The best learning you'll do is from yourself and your own group! I look forward to reading more from you.
Feel free to add yourself to the height weight/experience section.
-bamboo>
Post: GrappleToWin:
good post sun..... i never really thought of palm strikes ut heel strikes i use religously in a real fight situation... for instance if i go down and get the "bag guy" if that what u wanna call them, into a full guard then i try to tie up the arms and use heel strikes to the kidneys and shit what the name of it well it goes by the sympatetic nerve its on the out side of the thigh lol.... but tieing up the arms leaves u vulnerable for head but SO KEEP UR HEAD UP NOT DOWN!!!! but ya id agree with the head butt being VARY devistating and same with knees n bows....>
Post: zefff:
Are you wearing stilletto heels or some shit like that when you get into real fights and start dropping heel shots? :lol:
If you go down you should be concerned with getting up (or at least getting ontop)!...or am I the crazy one?>
Post: GrappleToWin:
you are the crazy one lol, personally i work better off my back using armbars n shit BUT if they have the upperhand meaning im mounted or the heels arnt doing anything then yes i worry about reversing the mount but the first thing i do is drive a good firm heel to the kidney come on zeff i no ur sexy and everything lol but heels to the kidneys hurt even gods such as your self
now dont get all pissed cuz im being dumb lol>
Post: BLACK PANTA:
[quote=GrappleToWin good post sun..... i never really thought of palm strikes ut heel strikes i use religously in a real fight situation... for instance if i go down and get the "bag guy" if that what u wanna call them, into a full guard then i try to tie up the arms and use heel strikes to the kidneys and shit what the name of it well it goes by the sympatetic nerve its on the out side of the thigh lol.... but tieing up the arms leaves u vulnerable for head but SO KEEP UR HEAD UP NOT DOWN!!!! but ya id agree with the head butt being VARY devistating and same with knees n bows....[/quote
I haven't really been following this thread, but decided to read this. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you'll pull guard in a real street fight and use heel shots to his kidneys. This is exactly why others dont think BJJ isn't street effective. Cuz of stuff like what you said. As Zeff said, you want to look to stand back up (keeping your op on the ground) to stomp on him, or you gain a dominant position. The guard is concidered to be a neutral position at best. Curious have you ever used any of what you said in an actual real life situation?>
Post: GrappleToWin:
yes sir a couple weeks ago a month ago at longest i was mocked lol for asking oppinons bout a fight i was gonna get into and the fight went to the ground the kid was bigger then me and i was in guard i wasnt screwing around and letting him hit me so i tried for an armbar and i hit it but it wasnt in deep so i let go got up and went back to throwing punches, he tried to take me down again and i was ready for it i sprawled put in an underhook(ive wrestled for 9 years so im comfortable on the ground as it is with out BJJ) rolled him gained mount then kept crackin him in the face...>
Post: GrappleToWin:
ohhh and if ive got him in a good guard hes not landing shot(or is but their not doing enough damage for me to care about) why would i stand it back up or take the chance of trying to roll him and he gains a more dominant position... like i said i work from my back fine and being a wrestler im more comfortable on the ground>
Post: BLACK PANTA:
you tried an armbar attempt on a bigger guy in a street fight? HOWLY CRAP. Were you willing to break it? What kind of surface were you fighting on? What would've happened if he picked you up and slammed you on your head? (if on ashphalt, concrete or any other hard and hazardous surfaces)>
Post: samurai6string:
From one wreslter to another: If you are comfortable on your back after wrestling for 9 years, something is wrong. :lol: I think Nbot can back me up on that one.
P.S. I think the question was about a REAL self defense situation, not you and a buddy rolling around after arguing who could kick who's ass. :roll:>
Post: zefff:
Good P.S.! thats what Im talking about 6string!
Ive seen sSOooo many real attacks where the involved hit the ground and hateful bystanders who dont know either of them or why they are fighting decide its a good idea to stomp, bottle or even stab one of the guys or even both, just for fun. Usually its the guy on the bottom who gets stomped by the bystanders although Ive seen a few where the guy with mount gets chinned from 8 or 4 o'clock. Getting caught up in a mass brawl/hooligan/gang fight can be even worse!
In a real attack we dont know what the attackers methods and objectives really are let alone the whims of people outside of your field of vision.
GTW, you seem to be talking about a contest, not an attack. Get to your feet or get ontop with your fav sweep...the heel kicks will only make the top guy want to pound you harder...that might give you your sub opportunity but might also get you KO'd quicker by him or his mates. Also I am not God. If you think I am full of shit cool but just tell me why so I can learn something. Me asking if I was crazy was my attempt to give you a chance to convince me I was wrong in my thoughts.
peace>
Post: GrappleToWin:
[quote=zefff Good P.S.! thats what Im talking about 6string!
Ive seen sSOooo many real attacks where the involved hit the ground and hateful bystanders who dont know either of them or why they are fighting decide its a good idea to stomp, bottle or even stab one of the guys or even both, just for fun. Usually its the guy on the bottom who gets stomped by the bystanders although Ive seen a few where the guy with mount gets chinned from 8 or 4 o'clock. Getting caught up in a mass brawl/hooligan/gang fight can be even worse!
In a real attack we dont know what the attackers methods and objectives really are let alone the whims of people outside of your field of vision.
GTW, you seem to be talking about a contest, not an attack. Get to your feet or get ontop with your fav sweep...the heel kicks will only make the top guy want to pound you harder...that might give you your sub opportunity but might also get you KO'd quicker by him or his mates. Also I am not God. If you think I am full of shit cool but just tell me why so I can learn something. Me asking if I was crazy was my attempt to give you a chance to convince me I was wrong in my thoughts.
peace[/quote
nonononononno zefff your takeing this the wrong way i was just being stupid i was saying nuthin like that lol.... but ya i no being a wrestler i shouldnt be comfortable on my back but duhhhh i dont wrestle anymore that just helps my rolling n other shit jui jitsu is what makes me omre comfortable i dunno why but i work better from my back. and ya the guy was bigger then me hmm i weight about 160 him around 190 but it was mostly fat on him weres im mostly muscle it was on grass and ya it was a real fight but if he had picked me up id of let go and looked for a trip to bring him back down and possible get a heel hook n break his ankle.... uhh ya usually in a real fight if someone tries a submission such as an armbar their looking to break the arm and im a dirty bastard in a fight i look for fightenders right away such as kicking the knee 90 degrees the opposite way, like i said im dirty but hey when is a street fight ever fair the agressor usually thinks he has an adavntage of some kind..>
Post: zefff:
I didnt take your post the wrong way at all. :roll:
Look! Your school fights are not real fights. They might seem very real to you but they are actually contests or unarmed duels. You said:
"I was mocked lol for asking oppinons bout a fight i was gonna get into..."
This implies prior knowledge and pre-arrangement - a duel. You limited yourself by accepting the terms of the duel. That acceptance of limitation as a universal truth is a weakness in your science.>
Post: bamboo:
Fights must have really changed since I was a teenager.
I think UFC has made it more of a , as Zefff said, "duel" than a fight (but only by my standards). If thats the case then the previous poster has a legitimate arguement seeing how this is HIS reality. If thats how the kids are fighting now then thats a "fight".
When I was in highschool the first UFC had not yet come out, people got "jumped", ambushed perhaps would be a better word, we didn't stay on the ground beyond what is now called ground and pound. I knew judo and could end an altercation with a hard throw onto concrete then getting the hell out of there.
IMHO, "honour" and "respect" now days is a joke concept used by kids to measure thier dicks. Fighting skills mean nothing once you become a proper adult unless its part of your occupation. I'll bet Bill Gates got beat up in highschool, now hes argueably the most powerful man in the world.
To sum it all up, fighting for honour or respect is just plain stupid. Defend yourself and your loved ones with everything you have, then enjoy your life.
diatribe over.
-bamboo>
Post: Hengest:
[quote=bamboo Fights must have really changed since I was a teenager. [/quote
Bamboo's right. Things were different in our day. You youngsters don't know you're born. My father used to wake us up three hours before we went to bed, then beat us to death with a broken bottle. Then we had to lick the driveway clean before we were sent to work at the pits. And we were happy for that!>
Post: zefff:
8O Sent to work in the pits!!!....you were lucky you even had a job! :lol:>
Post: Gazelle:
[quote=Hengest My father used to wake us up three hours before we went to bed, then beat us to death with a broken bottle. [/quote
I love my dad!!!>
Post: bamboo:
I had to break the bottle myself and give it back, plus we had a dirt driveway that was uphill bothways, I still taste dirt to this day.>
Post: zefff:
Think yourself lucky you can taste anything at all! We had the bottles broken over our heads, then we had to resurface our driveway with our tongues with the glass shards our spittle as binding paste. Any left over spittle was collected and used as a base stock for soup for our supper.
We couldnt eat the spittle soup because our tongues were wrecked and we only had supper once a fortnight! :lol:>
Post: Gazelle:
If you aren't joking, i am seriously worried.>
Post: bamboo:
Wow Zefff- you got supper?>
Post: JH:
[quote=Gazelle If you aren't joking, i am seriously worried.[/quote
Here is your sign>
Post: GrappleToWin:
LMFAO!!!! ya i no what u mean now zefff it was more of a duel but ppl still get jumped but their friend make the "jumpers" pay back worse some most of the time its a "duel"..... i think bamboo hit the nail on the head with the fight for honor, respect, family schpell(how the hell do you spell that word)....>
Post: bamboo:
"speil">
Post: zefff:
[quote=bamboo Wow Zefff- you got supper?[/quote
well we were offered supper but because we couldnt eat it we had to watch it given to the dogs.
...after lapping up the soup the dogs would go fowl the driveway! :lol:>
Post: Gazelle:
[quote=JH [quote=Gazelle If you aren't joking, i am seriously worried.[/quote
Here is your sign[/quote
Sorry, i'm not sure a completely understand what you mean.>
Post: graham1:
[quote=Hengest [quote=bamboo Fights must have really changed since I was a teenager. [/quote
Bamboo's right. Things were different in our day. You youngsters don't know you're born. My father used to wake us up three hours before we went to bed, then beat us to death with a broken bottle. Then we had to lick the driveway clean before we were sent to work at the pits. And we were happy for that![/quote
Yes Obadiah. Pass the Chateau de Chaselait. But of course we had it really tough......................>
Post: GrappleToWin:
ALL HAIL IM BACK!!!!! lol i guess u OLD :twisted: guys are too tough for me lol :lol:>
Post: graham1:
[quote=GrappleToWin ALL HAIL IM BACK!!!!! lol i guess u OLD :twisted: guys are too tough for me lol :lol:[/quote
What do you mean, you young whipper-snapper?
You just wait till I've changed my incontinence pad & taken out my wife's false teeth - well she's using mine just now to crimp the edges of the pies she's baking, & she lives in Poughkeepsie - and I'll show you a thing or two!
(Ha ha, Poppa Doyle! Guess what I did when I was last in Poughkeepsie, & you never saw me!!!! :mrgreen:)>
Post: GrappleToWin:
hahahahaha ya i am young....>
Post: Gazelle:
And, you're the only one who is so? I think there are a fair few knocking around! :D>
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