grappling counters in street fights?
Original Poster: remix5
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 15-01-2006, 16:26
Orginal Post: remix5: ok so i'm about to get in a fight... i have a lot of experience in street fighting... but ive always wondered... what is the best method of countering a headlock or a spear when the attacker is stronger than u? and what is the best method of getting back up from the ground while the attacker is on top of you during a street fight? and im askin all this without weapons. I'm very confident of winning in an all standing fight since im very good at taking jabs... but since im a smoker, i feel that he will take me down once i run out of gas.. so what is the best way to approach this? in the past, ive been able to prevent grappling moves by grabbing onto the collar of his shirt with one hand, and throwing punches with the other hand to his face. I also want to ask what you guys think is the best way to prepare for stamina and how i should use my energy through out the fight..
Post: Hengest:
[quote=remix5 in the past, ive been able to prevent grappling moves by grabbing onto the collar of his shirt with one hand, and throwing punches with the other hand to his face.[/quote
So you've been countering grappling by pulling them into grappling range?>
Post: Tease T Tickle:
Normally, I'd fuck this post up like that frat boy did to your sister's asshole last Saturday. Tonight, though, I'm feeling nice.
Striking a guy who has a lock on you isn't all that high percentage. If it's worked for you in the past, either you fight really weak guys, have the heaviest hands in the world or you got lucky. So, let's address common headlocks and the best way to deal with them:
Front headlock: If turned into a choke, known as a guillotine. He should have one arm across your throat or chin and the other arm should be securing that arm and may even be trapping one of your arms in the process. If he's sprawled out on his belly, keeping you on the ground, you can escape the hold as described below. If he's got his legs wrapped around you, you can escape as below or you can create some space between you and sock him in the nuts. If this lock is done standing, then you're already underneath his center of mass and can easily get a good grip on him. If he's trapping an arm, then you're already underhooking that arm for a half-body lock and you can use your free arm to get an ankle/knee pick or single-leg for what should be a pretty easy throw. If he isn't choking you, just holding you, then you don't need to worry about what he's doing at all, and on top of him on the ground, you can just pound the shit out of body with punches. Even if he doesn't let go, you can break his ribs and make him "lose gas." If the lock is really bothersome, slip the fingers of your free hand between your chin and the wrist of his arm and push it away from you as much as you can. Turn your chin towards the space you made and pull your head out. It should work without much fuss.
Side headlock: Commonly used by roughians and bullies who have no idea how to fight. If standing, get a grip as mentioned above and just throw his ass down. If on the ground (sometimes called a crossface), switch your hips so that you aren't flat on the ground, try to slide your far-side arm underneath your body to get it on his side. Grab his bottom leg with both arms and roll over onto your back and throw him off of your body. His grip is totally useless here and you should be able to continue the roll and get on top of him, unless he knows how to wrestle.
Rear headlock: There are too many variations, from the rear naked choke and kata hajime to the Nelson family of locks. If you get somebody's arms around your neck/head and they can remain directly behind you, you're in a world of trouble.
Countering the spear/shoot: is pretty easy. Except for highly trained fighters and the tough-as-nails street thugs, a simple knee to the face as they rush in at your lower body should suffice. As soon as the knee lands, drop a downward elbow onto their head, neck, shoulder, face, whatever's available. Unless he's real tough and you hit like a girl, he should go down like a cheap hooker. Aside from that, the best counter on an unskilled opponent is a really cool move I dubbed the backflip sweep. As he gets his grip on your lower body, you jump and wrap your legs around his upper body and then jerk backwards with your upper body to get some momentum. As you hit the ground, do a back roll and keep your legs pinched tight around him. He should go right over you and you can slip out to stay standing or hold on to get top position. If he knows how to wrestle, though, you'll be in trouble doing this.>
Post: zefff:
Hahaha! YOU GOT ALL THAT REMIX!?!? :evil:
If your worried about gassing, quit smoking and go train!>
Post: BLACK PANTA:
I'm worried about gas prices aswell. What you've gotta do, ideally, is get one of those hybrid cars, diesel or propane engines. If buying a whole new car isn't in your budget, you can get most cars converted to propane for just about $2000.00
Hope that helped.>
Post: nbotary:
[quote=Tease T Tickle Normally, I'd fuck this post up like that frat boy did to your sister's asshole last Saturday. Tonight, though, I'm feeling nice.[/quote But, did he bang her like a $2 whore on payday or screen door in a hurricane?!?!?! I think I saw that video on the net last week... She was takin' on all cumers!!! :twisted: :lol: :twisted: :lol:
Why do people keep coming on here and asking us these stupid fucking questions??? Want the real answer to your question? Here it is:
GET OFF YOUR LAZY FUCKING ASS, QUIT SMOKING AND TAKE UP SOME FORM OF MARTIAL ARTS!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
Hope that helps. Have a nice day. :D>
Post: WushuPadawan001:
You said that you are good at taking jabs. This is good.
Stand in front of your opponent and provoke him. Get him to hit you over and over until he tires out. Now that he is exhausted, and you have all your energy left, you will be able to finish the fight with one hit.
For more information on this fighting system see the episode of ?The Simpsons? where Moe gets Homer to fight Drederek Tatem.
Honestly, why always with the fighting?>
Post: Gangsta_Nerd:
[quote=BLACK PANTA I'm worried about gas prices aswell. What you've gotta do, ideally, is get one of those hybrid cars, diesel or propane engines. If buying a whole new car isn't in your budget, you can get most cars converted to propane for just about $2000.00
Hope that helped.[/quote
:lol: It sure as hell HELPED me (with my laughter, that is.)
TTT,
Yeah, you must be feeling REALLY nice today. I can't beleive you broke that down for him/her! Although, WE know exactly what you are describing and exactly what IT LOOKS LIKE, I doubt this "street fighter" knows.
No offense, but I think you probably wasted your geneuis on this cat! :P >
Post: angryrocker4:
I challenge you to a street fight, I wish to see your skill. Personally, I like to take a couple slashes from the other guys knife and spray my blood in his face, as that freaks people out and blinds them. I then proceed to do a secret viking technique called the vampire.......you pussy.>
Post: JC1007:
[quote=Tease T Tickle Normally, I'd fuck this post up like that frat boy did to your sister's asshole last Saturday. Tonight, though, I'm feeling nice.[/quote
You can't be nice on these posts, it's not in your DNA. You'll implode and think of the mess that will create. Plus, the responses are the only reason I read them. If you're nice, it deprives the masses of their entertainment.>
Post: samurai6string:
why am I always late to this kind of stuff? grumble grumble grumble.>
Post: nbotary:
[quote=samurai6string why am I always late to this kind of stuff? grumble grumble grumble.[/quote Becuase you don't log in for 8+ hours a day and check for new posts every 1/2 hour or so... !!! :lol: :lol: :lol:>
Post: Gangsta_Nerd:
Nbotary,
:lol: Yeah, you must do like I do & post while you "work" :lol: >
Post: nbotary:
Yeah - it breaks up the monotony of my job and my day... :wink:>
Post: KingOfIronFist:
if you are familier with rodney king's series use crazy monkey as defence, as without any gloves it will b e harder to block punches-bassically keep your hands high and block with your elbows and throw straight punch combinations. Have u ever heard of a sprawl? if he tries to football tackle you sprawl on top of him and blast his head with knees. if he doas manage to take u down use a guard grabbing the back of his head with one hand and overhooking the other arm. an untrained person is very easy to sweep with scisor sweeps, if he is too big and strong, get onto one side(on your hips)go chest to chest and throw him off.>
Post: Tease T Tickle:
[quote=JC1007 You can't be nice on these posts, it's not in your DNA. You'll implode and think of the mess that will create. Plus, the responses are the only reason I read them. If you're nice, it deprives the masses of their entertainment.[/quote
You're my new favorite. You're waaaaaaay cooler than Panta.>
Post: BLACK PANTA:
[quote=Tease T Tickle [quote=JC1007 You can't be nice on these posts, it's not in your DNA. You'll implode and think of the mess that will create. Plus, the responses are the only reason I read them. If you're nice, it deprives the masses of their entertainment.[/quote
You're my new favorite. You're waaaaaaay cooler than Panta.[/quote
Am i just a chew toy to be thrown aside and forgotten...AM I.....>
Post: nbotary:
[quote=Tease T Tickle You're my new favorite. You're waaaaaaay cooler than Panta.[/quote WHAAATT?!?!?! My mentor has foresaken me... I'm crushed... :(
[quote=KingOfIronFist if you are familier with rodney king's series use crazy monkey as defence, as without any gloves it will b e harder to block punches-bassically keep your hands high and block with your elbows and throw straight punch combinations. Have u ever heard of a sprawl? if he tries to football tackle you sprawl on top of him and blast his head with knees. if he doas manage to take u down use a guard grabbing the back of his head with one hand and overhooking the other arm. an untrained person is very easy to sweep with scisor sweeps, if he is too big and strong, get onto one side(on your hips)go chest to chest and throw him off.[/quote Sound advice from someone who can't fucking use spellcheck... :roll:>
Post: Tease T Tickle:
Nick, no one can replace you as my pimp protege.
Panta, if you were a chew toy, you'd be the plastic steak that squeals when the dog bites it. That is to say, you're too high-picthed and annoying to forget. :lol:>
Post: nbotary:
[quote=Tease T Tickle Nick, no one can replace you as my pimp protege.[/quote :D :D :D
My faith in the corruption and devastation of mankind has been restored... !!! :twisted: :lol: :twisted: :lol:>
Post: BLACK PANTA:
[quote=Tease T Tickle Panta, if you were a chew toy, you'd be the plastic steak that squeals when the dog bites it. That is to say, you're too high-picthed and annoying to forget. :lol:[/quote
see I knew you really cared :cry: :)>
Post: KingOfIronFist:
[quote=nbotary [quote=Tease T Tickle You're my new favorite. You're waaaaaaay cooler than Panta.[/quote WHAAATT?!?!?! My mentor has foresaken me... I'm crushed... :(
[quote=KingOfIronFist if you are familier with rodney king's series use crazy monkey as defence, as without any gloves it will b e harder to block punches-bassically keep your hands high and block with your elbows and throw straight punch combinations. Have u ever heard of a sprawl? if he tries to football tackle you sprawl on top of him and blast his head with knees. if he doas manage to take u down use a guard grabbing the back of his head with one hand and overhooking the other arm. an untrained person is very easy to sweep with scisor sweeps, if he is too big and strong, get onto one side(on your hips)go chest to chest and throw him off.[/quote Sound advice from someone who can't fucking use spellcheck... :roll:[/quote
i can use spell check but i cant be arsed this aint an english language exam (i got an A in that)>
Post: Tease T Tickle:
[quote=KingOfIronFist i can use spell check but i cant be arsed[/quote
Arse is a noun, the suffix -ed designates the past tense of a verb. 'Arsed' is not a word at all. So you can use spell check but you can't be <insert something that makes sense>? Bothered? Required to follow basic language skills when communicating with other intelligent beings? Dressed up like Little Bo Peep and spanked heartily by a man dressed like a lumberjack?
Quote: this aint an english language exam (i got an A in that)
Clearly, this is not an english exam. However, do you recall what the purpose of those english exams were? They were to make sure you could speak and write intelligently when communicating with other intelligent people. If nobody cared how you spoke or wrote, there wouldn't be english classes in schools and you'd converse like the back alley whore your mother is. And nobody cares that you cheated on your tests and had other people write your papers so you got an A; we actually demonstrate our skills and intellect when we wish to be taken seriously.>
Post: angryrocker4:
engish b hadrdd to tipe and reed butt skoooll gives I 'a)+ 4 spiling nAm cowectwy>
Post: dscott:
Quote: you'd converse like the back alley whore your mother is.
Tease: You never cease to amaze me with your verbal ammunition. I love it. :lol:>
Post: nbotary:
Tease - I'm so glad you like me!!! :wink: :lol:>
Post: KingOfIronFist:
"you?d converse like the back alley whore your mother is" That doesn't even make sense, a better sentence would be- " you'd converse like the back alley whore who is your mother?. The point of this thread is to help this guy with his grappling counters.>
Post: samurai6string:
well, that would be the point if the original poster were an actual practicing martial artist and not just some playground dumbass. Also, people might take you slightly more seriously if your name wasn't taken from a street fighting video game, you joystick ninja.
p.s. "you'd converse like your mother, the back alley whore.">
Post: angryrocker4:
NO NO NO! It's "Hey dude, your mom's the alley whore, and I totally just banged her in the butt! She ain't gonna shit right for a week!">
Post: Tease T Tickle:
[quote=KingOfIronFist "you?d converse like the back alley whore your mother is" That doesn't even make sense, a better sentence would be- " you'd converse like the back alley whore who is your mother?.[/quote
All permutations that appear here of the sentence I wrote are grammatically correct, including mine. If you don't understand how you can end a declarative sentence with a verb, then you need to go back to school, or stop sticking your dick in the light socket.
Quote: The point of this thread is to help this guy with his grappling counters.
And I did that well before you got here. Rethink to whom you speak and perhaps you will get somewhere other than that lovely little place we call 'Owned.'
P.S: Your parents are siblings. That's why you have webbed toes, a cleft palate and the proclivity to urinate on yourself for no reason whatsoever.>
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