Sanshou / Continuous Fighting
Original Poster: WushuPadawan001
Forum: Kung Fu Styles, Chinese Martial Arts
Posted On: 15-09-2005, 19:31
Orginal Post: WushuPadawan001: I?m interested in getting into some continuous sparring / sanshou fighting but I don?t know how to go about it. I have never fought with pads (my school practices full contact bare knuckle). Seems to me that all I have to do to is sign up for it at a Kung Fu tournament. Is that all there is as far as getting into it?
Also I have no experience fighting with pads. Seems like it wouldn?t be a problem, just means I can?t do any quina (not sure how to spell it). Would I be at a disadvantage going up against people who train with pads all the time?
For those of you wondering why I would want to get into padded fighting after years of bare knuckle let me tell you: Nearly every fighter I?ve seen in a continuous sparring or sanshou (to a lesser degree) match has seemed unthreatening. What I mean by unthreatening: no skill, no power, no quickness, nothing but an easy kill?.err win for me. Plus it would give me something else to do at tournaments (I?m tired of standing around for hours waiting for my 2 minutes to show my form).
If anyone has experience in this sort of thing please post some information.
Post: zefff:
What is the point of entering if its an easy win? Thats weak and arrogant. You should be entering to test yourself. If you are lucky you will come up against someone who will make you shit your pants and consider giving up the fight. If you have easy wins then that trophy you get might as well be thrown in the trash. If you get through pain barriers and your will power is questioned but you push on then you will grow and get to know your true self a bit better. IMO the objective of competiton alongside regular training should be to expose your own weakness, not weakness in other people. So those "unthreatening" people are helping you.
If your school practices "full contact bare knuckle" then you are all pulling your punches or simply dont spar that often to allow injuries to heal. In San Shou you might not be ready for people who dont pull their strikes and also your ranges might need a slight adjustment. I have seen loads of people who are not used to contact think that its them (and not the ref) who can stop and start the bout at will when they are in trouble. If you do a fair bit of focus pad work you should be okay but you will need to spar with all the gear on as much as you can so you can get over the loss of dexerity in your hands.
When you watch other people on the lei tai you might think their form is awful but its easy to sit and watch and a lot harder to actually do it when someone is trying to knock your head off.
You can pull Chin na in the competions Ive been in. Check the rules beforehand. You might find you can elbow, joint lock, takedown and throw as well as strike.>
Post: xcal:
WP1
I suggest that you train with a mouthguard on. I mean ALL your training running up to this tournament....running, forms, techniques, running, running, running.
I assume that you will also use mouthguards if this tournament insists on protective gear. Mouthguards bowl a spinner at every breathing technique that you are comfortable with.
regards
Xcal>
Post: WushuPadawan001:
Ouch zefff, ouch :(>
Post: zefff:
Ouch what? I am being honest.
If you are basing your potential on the performance of other people, when you lose I can guarantee you will be making excuses instead of an honest critique of your own flaws. And if you win you will only be buffing your ego while continuing down the road of sickness in thought and practice.
This could be a great exercise for you if you apply your mind and see how your 'form' stands up to some pressure. You cannot lose! Good luck.>
Post: WushuPadawan001:
Fair enough>
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