Jo
Original Poster: bamboo
Forum: Martial Arts Weapons
Posted On: 11-12-2005, 02:07
Orginal Post: bamboo: The jo is thought to have originated in Japan with a gentleman named Muso Gonnesuke. Legend has it that after a defeat to Miyamoto Musashi (Musashi spared his life) he started using a staff that was about four shaku, two sun and one bu in length (128 cm.). This became known as the jo. Legend says that he once again met up with Musashi and was the only man ever to defeat the sword master. He in turn, spared Musashi's life.
Here is a glossary of jo terms as I have studied them. I am sure they differ from ryu to ryu.
Initial stances- Hidari no kamae
Tsuki no Kami
Ken no Kamae
Choku tsuki ? straight thrust
Gyaku yokomen ushiro tsuki- side strike with behind thrust
Hasso ? this is the 8 directional striking posture
Hidari nage gaeshi uchi- left continuous turning and strike
Katate gedan gaeshi- one hand low level turning strike
Katate hachi no ji- one hand figure 8 turn
Kaeshi Tsuki- turning thrust
Menuchi Gedan Gaeshi- overhead strike with turning low level strike
Menuchi Ushiro Tsuki- overhead strike with thrust behind
Migi nage gaeshi tsuki- right continous turning and thrust
Renzoku Uchi-Komi- continuous overhead strike
Shomen Uchi Komi- straight overhead strike
Toma Katate uchi- far long one handed strike
Tsuki Gedan Gaeshi- turning low level strike
Tsuki Jodan Gaeshi- turning upper level strike
Ushiro Tsuki- thrust behind
Post: setsu nin to:
I realy like Jo its exelent weapon, maybe little to long for me, but thats just personal. My stick weapon is Hanbo, but I practice many Jojutsu techniques with it. Jo stick is definetly very powerfull and very effective weapom, with huge number of realistic techniques that can be used in real fight.
but as with everything good in martial arts problem with Jo is becouse of milion of "experts" who think that everyone what to learn their three patetic techniques and than they start with videos and articles...>
Post: bamboo:
One thing I have found with the jo is that usually the simplest, least flashy techniques are the ones that work like all MAs). I have had the occasion to free spar with the jo wearing kendo armour against a kendoka, where he expected lots of "twirls" and fancy looking jo technique, I found that a spiral tsuki was very often undefendable against .
Setsu-
What type of techniques do you think easily transfer from jo to hanbo and vice versa?
-bamboo>
Post: Wilhelm von Wänkensteïn:
Ooh, jo! I've seen my sensei at work with a jo in randori before and, yes, you're right, it's definitely quite a flashy weapon by convention, for some reason :mrgreen: Kukishinden-ryu is definitely quite flashy in execution, but I think that's a by-product of its circular nature than anything else. At least from what I've seen, heard and read (not very much :oops: ), Kukishinden-ryu isn't very direct, by reason of it being a 'survival' style that assumes the worst-case scenario in philosophy and training. Hence, you get a lot of funky spiralling receiving forms and little (and big) feints to gradually break an opponent's rhythm and mental kamae and set him up for the kill, as opposed to, say, the businesslike tap-tap-step-gotcha of Katori Shinto ryu :D>
Post: bamboo:
'Tis funny, aikijo is much more spear like in its execution with many less flourishes than you may see in other styles. I think because Ueshiba sensei studied hozoin spear as well as bayonet, these principles and ideas were transferred over to his jo work. At the moment, the majority of the jo syllabus is held by aikikai after Saito sensei passed on and his son took the iwama group and seperated from the aikikai (sad really IMHO).
Unlike the boken work we do, the jo work has a direct application to combat where as our sword work is only to help better understand empty hand techniques. If an aikidoka were to use aikiken in real life, I fear they would be dead very fast. On the contrary, I know of at least one aikidoka that participated in a "dog brothers" gathering using aikijo and did really well.
-bamboo>
Post: BLACK PANTA:
rise..........RISE FROM THE DEPTHS FROM WHENCE YOU CAME....
Soo, just a question to you jappo jo guys. Have any of you seen or practiced in any Chinese stick forms? I've seen the typa jo stuff bamboo was talking about and it's pretty different than the chinese applications of the weapon.>
Post: TKDman:
Here's probably the best illustrations of the jo suburi that I've found on the web for free.
http://www.ufa-aikido.de/waffen/tsuki.php
On a semi-related note, I tested for 5th kyu (yellow w/stripe) today. Pretty sure I passed.>
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