Is this a fake MCdojo/teacher ?: Old Forum Topic
Original Poster: setsu nin to
Forum: McDojo Dicussion
Posted On: 09-05-2004, 20:12
Orginal Post: setsu nin to: Is this a fake MCdojo/teacher ?
JKDnWngTsun
Ok im happy that ive finally been able to find a sifu within my area. His name is Sifu Alton Miller, he teaches wing chun. I'd like to know if any of you know if what he teaches is real or not. He seems to come from a good line of instructors, but yet i have never heard of him. His site doesent even put what system/type of wing chun he teaches! http://www.cantonwingchun.com/ ao ahead and check for yourselves. Please let me know as soon as possible. I want to see him for his monday class.
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Crap.......
If you think that its a McDojo....it probably is.
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MrApollinax
I took a look at the fees for the classes. It seems that they are pretty good $75/mo or 100$/quarter. HOWEVER you have to read and make sure that you notice the contract says you have to sign-up for a ONE YEAR commitment! SO you are obligated to pay out $900-$1200/year if you decide to train with this school. Up front contracts like this make me warry so I'd watch out. Perhaps his style and facility require this but if he doesn't let you at least watch a class or participate in a class to see what he has to offer I would be very warry of that school.
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JKDnWngTsun
Im going to watch a class today actually. What types of questions should i ask him? and what types of responses should i be looking for ?
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*Gong*Sao*
Ask if they spar regularly and what they think about cross training. Those two answers will tell you a lot about the school.
Also: this isn't very reliable, since I couldn't really tell anything about the school from the pictures, but most McKwoons will be of or at least claim Yip Man lineage for the name recognition. That this school is Yuen Kay San is probably a good sign.
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JKDnWngTsun
hmm, i looked at the rules of conduct they had posted, and it said that no other martial arts are to be practiced in class unless asked to do so.
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dscott
That doesn't necessarily mean that it's a McDojo. It just means that he wants to teach strictly Wing Chun. He might understand the other Dojos that teach different styles in one class but he may only want to teach wing chun. Just my opinion though.
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EvilScott
My school is far from a McDojo, but my Sifu respectfully asks us to let him meet/check out anyone we cross train with.
The only thing that says 'McDojo' to me is the year-long contract. Otherwise it looks like a good WC school. Reminds me a bit of my own. Just see if they can provide what you want out of MA (ie. fighting instruction, traditionalism, etc)
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*Gong*Sao*
I didn't mean that they should teach multiple arts. What I mean is that you should be wary of any instructor who tells you that you don't need to learn multiple arts, or worse that you shouldn't.
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Post: TigerPaw:
Heh. In SHKA( Swedish Hung Kuen Assoc.) we are against cross-training, but we actually had a debate about it on the internal forum, and they're for cross-experience, not training.
It's mostly so our Fundamentals aint going to be screwed up, And we actually already have two styles in the curriculum, Hay Say Fu in advanced levels (Village style Hung Gar. Uses pigeon toe stance instead of horse stance as the 'basic' stance.) Three styles if you count the Lau Gar Sets, but it's the same principles and such as basic-hung gar when it comes to it's techniques. A bit more 'flashy' but still. And when we're safe enough in our fundementals, And we find a style that we find something we dont find in Hung Gar, and we want to practice,(example, Kenjutsu or Kendo, If you for an example want to be able to fight good with a katana. :P) then you can Ask if your Sifu believes you are Strong enough in your fundementals. It's for one's own good. So the time spent practicing all the basics and funtemental, forcing it into your spine and head werent in Vain.
It's not like they force us to practice Hung Gar, so it's not like one aint allowed to leave. :mrgreen:
'Cross-training Bad, Cross Experience Good.'>
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