Side injury
Original Poster: Gazelle
Forum: Others
Posted On: 04-12-2006, 07:25
Orginal Post: Gazelle: Hi all, I'm really starting to get sick of this now, i have injured my right side, more specifically around the ribs...because of how i did it, i doubt i've broken anything, but, i wouldn't be surprised if i did some ligament damage, or something of the sort. I know these heal badly, but i was wondering if i could do anything to encourage it...if anyone knew of any tricks? Even better, if anyone knew of any miracles, or had any magic wounds hiding back there?
I did it mid-july, and because i felt bad letting people down, i managed to aggrevate it a lot over the course of a single day (well, that and because i happened to have to tack up the largest horse on the yard, and he wasn't being all that cooperative as far as tightening the girth was concerned), and a few times over the past few months thanks to packing and unpacking, packing and unpacking, packing and unpacking, and quite possibly another one after that. I have done nothing of what you could call 'real' excersize since, and man has it created some bizarre, and somewhat frustrating (given i can't do anything about it) energetic outbursts.
I will be so grateful to anyone who could give me some help on this.
By the bye, i've seen the doctor (all be it reluctantly), and after some encouragement he's referred me to the physio...when i will actually get an appointment, i really don't know, but he said to start doing 'stuff' now to start getting it moving, i just don't know how much 'stuff' to do...knowing me i'll end up doing too much and making it worse.
Post: Tease T Tickle:
I do have magic powers, but you kind of have to be on the same continent. Sorry.
How do you injure it in the first place?>
Post: Gazelle:
:) Thanks anyhow.
Well, initially, i may have been grappling with some black belt in a judo class, and, he may have manouevred me in a position through scraping his foot across my right side, all the way down my ribs to my hip, whilst giving my arm a nice pull in the opposite direction (i.e. towards his face), and then, of course his foot, and legs kept my right side rather nicely (or, rather, not nicely) stretched. After that, it didn't actually feel that bad, i kept grappling, quite happily for a fair while, still, normally i would have taken it easy afterwards, just in case for a few days at least, but, about 36 hours later i had made an arrangement to take some girls out riding on a hack (not wanting to let them or stables down, i went along, and, actually the ride went very well, had them doing more trotting than they've ever done in a ride before, apparently), and there's where the stubborn, large horse came in, which i believe i mentioned in the previous post. Then, later on, i had also said that i would come help a couple of friends at their turkey farm (they're sort of in the process of building it), and that involved, stretching, a good few wheel barrows, and lifting some rather large metal bars, which had gotten quite hot in the sun through their transportation in the open back of a truck (which, has nothing to do with anything, just thought i'd swing that in there whilst telling the tale)....this was Cyprus in mid-July, after all. So, all in all, i really didn't do myself any favours, and lets just say for a good few days afterwards, moving was somewhat of a, lets say, different affair afterwards...and laughing wasn't too good either. It didn't really hurt that much, but, you just, or i just had this mental image of the fact that feeling the way it did, what i was doing probably wasn't doing it any favours.
And then, just as it was getting a fair bit better i went and decided to take on the task of rescuing my fathers computer desk, which he had decided to leave balancing with no legs on one side (we were dismantling things), and as i saw it overbalancing, knowing it was within my reach, i decided to let my reactions shoot away and flick my closest arm out to stop it. Of course, that arm happend to be my right one, the one attached more closely to the side i had injured. I think the speed argued with it more than the weight of the table, which, thankfully, wasn't very heavy. Naturally, there were a few such instances.
I have to admit, i rather enjoyed writing that!>
Post: Tease T Tickle:
I enjoyed reading it. Except the part where you hurt yourself. I didn't enjoy that part. :lol:
Normally, I'd say it's something like a muscle pull given the grappling story but that shouldn't still hurt. Since it doesn't hurt when you breathe, and you haven't made yourself go to the doctor's yet, I'm assuming it isn't as bad as a broken or dislocated rib. This sounds like a mystery for House, which is my favorite show now that he left that rectal thermometer in that guy. :lol:
Anyways, I truly believe it has to be muscular or connective tissue, but may be more serious than a simple pull/strain. You've been re-injuring it, so that may be making me believe the duration is less important than it may actually be, but if I had to guess I'd say you have a minor tear in your upper serrata or oblique. Really, you should just rest, ice it every now and again (ice fixes everything), and try to stay as healthy as possible without being too aggressive towards your muscles. Instead of jogging or running, go for some nice walks (it's autumn now, and beautiful outside) and maybe take up some Tai Chi (the exercise, not the martial art) to keep those muscles loose and active but without putting too much stress on them. Also, Aspercreme will be a life saver. You will smell like an old man, but it's okay. Guys your age won't care.>
Post: Gazelle:
Thanks, that sounds very helpful.
I've emailed the Tai chi club here, and, i seem to be getting a fair number of strolls (well, i tend to have a fast walking pace, for some bizarre reason, so there probably more like medium paced walks for most, with a lot of stopping and studying squirrels and such) round the wood and by the lakes :), of course, i'm wrapped up like it's at least 5 degrees colder than it actually is. I was wearing my ski jacket the other day in the lecture theatres! Really bad.
Anyway...does the aspercreme actually help heal, or is it purely a pain reliever (as one sales pitch seems to imply)? If it's the latter, i'm not interested...i like to know if i'm doing something wrong:). And, as far as smelling goes, i have a page up right now that says its odourless...hmmm, i wonder if they lied, or used someone with no sense of smell whatsoever to test that, then:) unless of course, it's slightly different to what you have had experience with. And, i'm not that fussed what the guys think in that area:).
It seems to have gotten more sensitive over this past week (the side, that is). And i do sometimes catch it when i breath, but that's only if i've either been rushing around, or carrying something, or generally done something that might aggrevate it.>
Post: Tease T Tickle:
They probably made an odorless Aspercreme by now. In days past it smelled "like a medicine cabinet" which is horribly vague, but surprisingly accurate. :lol: It's just a pain reliever, as far as I know, although it may have the beneficial side effect of reducing swelling or soft-tissue tension, which may in fact help the healing process along. It isn't an exact thing, especially when I'm not totally certain what the problem is.
If your catching your breath and such, it may actually be a dislocated rib at the bottom of your rib cage. That worries me a bit. You should definitely see a doctor. Or not. I do have magical powers. :-P>
Post: Gazelle:
lol. I've seen one. He was rather vague, and not too sure what good anything would really do, and basically told me to start 'getting things moving again'. With a bit of prompting, he gave me a referal to a physio. This was about three weeks ago, and i'm still awaiting an appointment.>
Post: dscott:
[quote=Tease T Tickle They probably made an odorless Aspercreme by now. In days past it smelled "like a medicine cabinet" which is horribly vague, but surprisingly accurate.[/quote
Sportscreme smells really good and works alright. Also, Capsacine HP has no smell and works great. It burns like a mo fo.....so keep it away from sensitive areas. 8O Don't ask how I know this. :oops:>
Post: Gazelle:
I think i can restrain myself from asking the one question:)
I did a search for both...thanks, but they're both just pain relievers. For all i care, it could hurt twice as bad (obviously, rather it not), provided it healed/i could use it properly. And, like i said, when it hurts, i know i'm doing something wrong.>
Post: dscott:
I would see another doctor or try to get an MRI. Like Tease said, it doesn't sound like a simple muscular strain.
Here's one thing that you could try in the mean time.... L-Glutamine.
I know a lot of people that work out use this to help repair muscle tissue after vigorous workouts (basically when you lift weights, your muscles tear a small bit and repair themselves. That's how they get bigger). Correct me if I'm wrong anyone but I think L-Glutamine helps process the protein in your body. Protein helps repair muscles. Therefore, L-Glutamine should help repair your muscles.
You might also want to get a little heat on it. Ice will help if there's swelling. Heat will help bring blood to the area. Proper blood flow will help with the healing. But not too much heat. Maybe 10 minutes.
Also, if you don't want to see a doctor or physical therapist, try an acupunturist. You never know.>
Post: Gazelle:
I'm on campus. Seeing another doctor isn't really viable (nor, admittedly desirable, i've had some tricky dealings with the medical proffession in my past, hence why i like to avoid it where possible). I did wonder about trying something that would help my body process protein, and, i did, before coming to university start putting a hot water bottle on it, which, seemed to help. I have one of those microwavable ones, so i might try doing that again, and look into the L-Glutamine. The accupuncturist isn't a bad idea, but i'm guessing that's going to cost, and going to have to be quite a way off campus, which kind of makes it impractical if it would be regular, which, with anything like that, it generally is, although, it was a good idea. I hadn't thought of an accupuncturist.
Thank you.>
Post: bamboo:
Gazelle-
Another medium by which to transfer heat to your abdomen is to fill a sock with rice and microwave it till hot and place where needed. It fits perfectly to the body.
Its a technique used by women to ease the pain that comes of a result from breastfeeding.
-bamboo>
Post: Gazelle:
Thanks bamboo. That's a nice idea.>
Post: Tease T Tickle:
The sports medicine community has started to stray away from heat as a source of relief for injuries. Whether its muscular, connective or bone tissue involved, ice seems to be much more effective and while heat can relax the muscles, it often does not help the body repair itself any faster, sometimes even slowing the process. I know this because my coaches always loved me and hated seeing me hurt. :lol: That's a lie, my coaches hated me, but they still told me that ice would work better.>
Post: Gazelle:
That does seem to against what one might think. After all, i thought whatever needed repairing required a good blood supply for it to do so, hence, as ice would seem to reduce it, ice would not neccesarily be the best option. But, there are other considerations in the healing of tissue that i know i have no knowledge of, or extremely little, ones, that i would think these people are more aware of than I. I'd be rather worried if there was not, i'd certainly be thinking twice before trusting their word again if this weren't so:)>
Post: Gazelle:
Guess what, i have a physio appointment on the penultimate day of term (this thursday). And, I was waiting outside one of the residences yesterday for someone to come open the door, and as it was cold i started jumping round a bit to get my blood moving. That sort of turned into, when no one was walking by, of course, randomly kicking the air...darn that felt good, it really has been too long. My side actually seemed to be fine with doing a fair amount (of course, wouldn't go doing loads just bits every now and again), but it was great! And then i ended up doing some in the room of the guy who i was waiting to open the door, it kept him entertained (he's never done martial arts).
However, i shouldn't have really bothered about whether anyone was walking passed or not...i forgot the fact that they have CCTV outside all of the residential buildings!>
Post: samurai6string:
[quote=dscott
Sportscreme smells really good and works alright. Also, Capsacine HP has no smell and works great. It burns like a mo fo.....so keep it away from sensitive areas. 8O Don't ask how I know this. :oops:[/quote
Oh man, I have a completely hilarious story that runs along those lines...................... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:>
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