evaluation on those weird electrical pad things?: Old Forum
Original Poster: setsu nin to
Forum: Bodyweight Exercises
Posted On: 15-09-2006, 22:47
Orginal Post: setsu nin to: evaluation on those weird electrical pad things?
Burnout
ok today I went to buy some add ons to my dumbells and I was looking over the products in the aisle and then I saw one of those 'ab toner' things (you know the typethe ones with those small pads that sent small electric jolts through your muscles and makes them contract) I ignored it and went on and got my weights but on the way back I started thinking about those electrical things are they a con/pretty useless?
This has always been my (uninformed) opinion but just the way they are advertised has always put me off them e.g. those really corny ads which insisits how easy it is to 'define your abs!' so I always pretty much assumed that its just a product created for lazy people who never go to the gym and who want defined muscle. So my question is do they acutally work or are they just a con? (as I guess they are)
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Urban Skurk
It's fake. If it was that easy to get defined abs, then these products would probably be used by everyone. I've seen these commercials to, and they're straight up lying. No amount of electrical current is gonna make your bodyfat "melt" away, the only good way to get nice abs is to eat right and do cardio. Besides who the fock would want to electrocute himself in the attempt to get a washboard??? My advice is to do the traditional exersices that we all know are effective, and forget about these "wonder-products".
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kronos
They are a fake. Recently the manufacturers of these ab toners got sued for making false statements regarding their product. The only use these electrode devices have is if someone is bedridden due to injury or is an astronaut in a prolonged zero gravity environment they will prevent muscle wasting.
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NeverMan
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Originally posted by urban_skurk
No amount of electrical current is gonna make your bodyfat "melt" away, the only good way to get nice abs is to eat right and do cardio.
First: Yes, these products are fake. I also think that if they were "for real", everyone would use them.
Second: There are studies being conduct in many bioelectrical labs across the country on this very matter. The main reason for this is to isolate and kill cancer cells with current running at a certain frequency, without damaging any other cells, and without any long term damage. They have not found a way to do this yet, however, one of the by-results of these experiments is that they have found a way to kill fat cells using the same technique. I don't think that the above mentioned products have anything to do with this. These are recent discoveries (you can look them up on the internet if you don't believe me). One of the professors in my Dept. (Electrical and Computer Engineering) at my school is working with two other professors/researchers at the Eastern Virginia Medical School (EVMS) on this exact topic. I also know of another compnay in California that is doing the same thing. This "fat destroying" technique has not yet been fully explored and is therefore obviously not open to the public and has obviously not passed any medical, clinical, or government tests.
I just posted this to inform you of what I know (very little) about the topic. The product however does not use this technique and is bogus as hell.
This is, again, just what I know, if you want to know more, do your own research.
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The BadBoy
I know for a fact that some hospitals around hee use them for physiotherapy but dont know about a fit person training with them. the theory makes sense and i have had one on before and i was sore like i get sore from the gym , set it up high and its a mother focker. but i've never trained with them.
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-=KING UMY=-
hey badboy you can get them for around £5 ( which has dropped from the origional price of £60 ) round here now because the prices dropped rapidly after people stopped buying them, £5 isnt much at all so i might get one and see for myselff
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The BadBoy
£5? You gotta tell me where bro.
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-=KING UMY=-
hmmmmm well ur living up in scotland bro but ill give it a shot. the first place i saw it was at an indoor market in our town cos they were imported form our home (good old pakistan ).Anyway i thought it may have only been cheap because they were brought here but i saw them for around the same price in a shop called T.J Hughes i think its a franchise so you might have them up there they sell all sorts of stuff, anyway just look around you'll find one cheap sooner or later cos no one seemed to take them seriously
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confusingDot
this product works to break apart fibers in the muscle cell, which in turn grows back stronger. Your muscle works by sending electricity through it to contract, and under much stress the fibers will break then grow back stronger.
this product does not use any energy of your own, so why would it burn off fat. the new discovery by badboy i have never heard of... so it may burn off fat in this way... bu tnot ot my knowledge. this product will also not give you any of the endurance factors. you will only gain strength, which does work. The company will get sued if they say that it does soemthing that isn't true. but taht doesn't mean that now the parts about it that ARE true, now become false. this product builds strength, and definition, but other then what neverman has said, it doesn't not burn fat away. neverman's explanation i have never heard, and cannot trust until i hear more information on it.
and if something works... it doens't mean that everyone will use it... sometimes it jsut isn't known that well. like now, i'm using a kinda hidden away computer lab, because the other one was full. this computer lab works, but not htat many people are in it becuase it is not that well known. many big businesses also get alot of money not because they are better, but just because they are more well known. name brands and such.
personally... i htink of this product as cheating... but since i don't have a real definiton of what's cheating and what's not... this is only my own opinion. but steriods and other drugs fall into this cateogry of cheating for me as well.
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PizDoff
For us not extremely out of shape guys, getting defined abs isn't hard.
1. Proper protein rich diet, with calorie intake lower than your required daily needs. No colas.....
2. Cardiovascular exercises, running and swimming to burn fat and carbohydrate energies.
3. Anaerobic exercises targeting muscle growth in said abdominal area, ie crunches and situps.
And keep working at it.....
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sess
hey can you translate that to american dollars
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*Gong*Sao*
Find the exchange rates and do it yourself. People in the UK don't have them memorized.
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george stiles
they r worthless for ab work but i bought one to use on my sore muscles and it is great it is the same basic thing as the electric stym machines that chiropractors and physical therapists use
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Post: Ironjim:
They might be good for hospital use, but don't rely on them to achieve your desired physique>
Post: MartialArtist:
Nothin defines your abs that good except a good diet and cardio>
Post: BLACK PANTA:
I had one of those contraptions. When you set it to high, it hurts like, someone is grabbing at your abs and squeezing with all thats in them. I used it for like 2 weeks, with not accomplishing the results they claimed. All i got was pain.>
Post: dscott:
I wouldn't count on them to build muscle or burn fat. I had some physical therapy done on my shoulders a few years ago (bursydus, spelling?) and they hooked electrical pads up to each shoulder, back and front. The current ran through my shoulder and it was supposed to strengthen those muscles and tendons that were affected. It worked but I wouldn't think that it would build muscle. Maybe just strengthen weakend muscles. If that makes any sense.>
Post: setsu nin to:
I realy dont like things like that. To put little electrict chair on myself... no thanks.>
Post: Tatsukage:
All those do is just force the muscles to flex. But, the downfall is, that there's no work behind it, so it's in a sense, "false" muscle. They seem to work, but you have to wear them for ages before you see any results, along with diet, and more exercise. It's worth it just to do the crunches more than wear a little electro-belt and be cool for a week.>
Post: zefff:
Another fossil thread but wow man this brings back memories! Who remembers these guys?
Urban Skurk, kronos, NeverMan, The BadBoy (yeah I know, he's still debout), KING UMY (I loved that kid, hope his studies are goiing well), confusingDot, PizDoff, sess, Gong Sao, george stiles.
For me, reading those names bring back memories of a lot of really great contribution!>
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