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I need help losin weight

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I need help losin weight
Original Poster: prodigy
Forum: Weight Loss
Posted On: 28-07-2006, 22:28

Orginal Post: prodigy: I'm a 190lb asian kid trying to lose for boxing. But im surround by rice! I eat to much carbs. Give me a diet plan for an asian person surround by rice! please. I love boxing and been into the art of boxing and other martial for a while. I have a fighting spirit!

Post: The BadBoy:

1. Eat breakfast.
2. Eat Chicken rice or something similar for lunch.
3. don't eat after 6pm unless you got training..
4. Don't eat any rice that day after training (I'm assuming you train in the morning).>

Post: Bushi:

pound water and cut refined sugar>

Post: dscott:

Not to repeat everyone else but:

1. No carbs after 6pm.
2. Cut sugar.
3. Eat more often but small amounts. It quickens your metabolism.
4. Drink lots of water.
5. Exercise, exercise, exercise.>

Post: bushidoka:

There is also supplementation for weight loss, use a whey protein isolate to supplement between meals, this will give you carb free calories and maintain muscle while dieting down. Glutamine will help with this also, along with supporting your gastrointestinal system. Carnitine aides fat burning. Tyrosine steps up the metabolism, as do thermogenics.
Just a quick question guys, why no carbs/food after 6 pm? :?>

Post: dscott:

Quote:

Just a quick question guys, why no carbs/food after 6 pm?


It's because your bodies metabolism slows down at night to conserve energy. If you have carbohydrates in your system, your body will turn them into fat storage instead of energy.>

Post: The BadBoy:

Check out the Nutrition section a www.johnberardi.com It explains Macronutrient timing quite well in someof teh articles. No point repreating what has already been said. And in that above post I meant evening not morning, sorry.>

Post: bushidoka:

I went through most of berardi's articles, and no where does he say not to eat after 6. On the contrary, in a few articles, he advocates waking up throughout the night to ingest protein.
I went into their centre yesterday, but had to make appointment to speak with nutritionist there, so I never got talk to them.
I was asking because it goes against my training.
Gotta go, finish later>

Post: The BadBoy:

Really? I'm sure that was the site I got the info from. Guess not.

Well anyway, The idea in basic terms behind not eating carbs after 6pm (unless training) is to prevent a spike in blood sugar and fat storage from insulin removing said sugar from the blood stream due to inactivity when you go to sleep.

Ofcourse if your not trying to drop weight you gotta eat some food as for part of the night your body is in a catabolic state and you need the neutrients to help repair.>

Post: bushidoka:

It is irrelevent(very generally) if your calories are carb, protein, or fats, though protein is superior for late nutrition. As long as you are not over your caloric limit for the day, why would you worry about carbs?
It is generally accepted that you should consume the vast majority of your calories early in the day and taper off as a.m. turns to p.m. As for weight loss, I personally do not put people on diets unless they are doing some form of training. it is too hard to get them to lose weight through food consumption alone, though you can do it, you need someone who is diligent with their nutrition and keeps an accurate log.
BTW Badboy, insuline spikes are very important to the body builder, perhaps I will do a thread on insulin and what exactly it is and does. Let me know if there is interest.>

Post: The BadBoy:

Most definately. Do the thread. Although I disagreee and must say that not all calories are born equally. And I know for a fact that the info for that is in the site I mentiuoned. if I got time later I will put a direct link to it.>

Post: bushidoka:

Sorry Badboy, haven't forgot about you, I will do this topic saturday, really busy week.
BTW, I am not disputing the fact that there are different types of carbs, and some are much better than others, only that if you do not exceed your caloric intake for a day, it really doesn't what you are eating at night, and again, this only applies to and active person in active training.>

Post: bushidoka:

Hey BadBoy, how are you today? Figured I would do this insulin thing now that I got a couple of hours. This gets a bit complicated, but I will try to keep it simplistic.
First, insulin is the body's main storage hormone. It triggers a string of cellular events that end up increasing cellular nutrient absorption, setting the grounds for an anabolic effect called osmotic response, which is an intercellular increase in water and nutrients. More water and nutrients, and you get a larger cell, fuller, more volume.
Insulin forces large amounts of amino acids(the building blocks of life) into the muscle cell at the time of spike. Insulin triggers glycogen synthesis. Glycogen levels are an accurate measure of muscular performance. When they are depleted, catabolism of muscle tissue occurs, the body starts breaking the tissue down to amino acids to keep its levels of glycogen up. This is a very important point to remember, you must keep your glycogen stores high.
The amount of carbs you consume at one time plays a very important part on how large of an insulin spike you get, and its duration. Intaking 100 g of carbs will increase you insuline secretion levels for about 2 hrs, while eating 200 g carbs will raise insulin levels 200% for about 5 hrs! This is the perfect setting for growth. Now, the key is to make sure it is getting its nutrients and supplements at the proper times, as insulin also has a synergistic(2 things combining togather to produce a result greater than either could produce alone)effect on many other compounds such as creatine, nitric oxide, protein, glutamine, taurine, argnine, etc, which are all required for quick building of muscle mass.
Well, thats the basics, any questions or information, feel free. There is much more to it than this, but this is a start badboy.>

Post: shurite44:

[quote=bushidoka BTW, I am not disputing the fact that there are different types of carbs, and some are much better than others, only that if you do not exceed your caloric intake for a day, it really doesn't what you are eating at night, and again, this only applies to and active person in active training.[/quote 

You are not only wrong about what you eat does not matter, you are as wrong as you can get.

Of course you can lose weight keeping you calories under your set point. And I agree it does not matter what you eat. You could eat snow cones and still lose weight. But that is not the goal, the goal is to have a diet that can:

1. Support the energy level needed for your workouts.
2. Supply the right balance of protein, fat, and carbs so that you will not cannibalize your muscle tissue to satisfy your bodies protein needs.>

Post: lote_tree:

If you?re serious about loosing weight quickly, efficiently and safely then you need to do the following:

1. 5-7 days of cardio a week for at least 30 minutes, maximum 60 minutes. Intensity levels need to be as high as possible but at a level were you can sustain the activity for at least 30 min. Running would be my activity of choice purely because it?s the best form of cardio to burn calories.

2. An appropriate weight-training programme. As mentioned earlier your muscles will become a fat burning furnace so the more muscle you have, the more fat you will burn doing nothing. Also, a good weight training programme will prevent you from loosing muscle due to your cardio regime.

3. Have a meal every 2.5-3 hours, at least 5 times a day so that your body can burn the fat through optimising your metabolism. 6 meals a day is the ideal. Yes, that means getting up early.

4. This is my baseline diet and if your serious about being lean and mean then your diet must include the following:

Oatmeal (Quaker classic oats, not the flavoured ones),
Yams or sweet potatoes,
Lots of Green vegetables,
Chicken breast,
Very lean cut sirloin steak,
Salmon,
Tuna,
Skimmed milk/low-fat milk,
Egg whites. 1 egg yolk to 4 egg whites is the ideal ratio if you fancy some yolk. Remember the yolk contains all the fat,
Brown rice,
100% wholemeal bread in fact anything that is 100% wholemeal (If you?re really pressed for time due to competition, then I suggest leaving bread out of your diet completely),
Fruit,
Green Tea.

The list above is a must if you want to shedd the weight as quickly as possible. Hope it helps and good luck.>

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